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Phone screens dont need to be user-swappable but apple should be forced to sell each module (screen, frame, camera board, main board, etc).

dangus 6mo ago
Just the battery would be a great start. For a laptop, nearly everything should be modular.
Schiendelman 6mo ago
Please be careful not to argue to "force" a company to do something they already do... https://support.apple.com/self-service-repair https://support.apple.com/self-service-repair
- dangus 6mo ago
  Awesome that you can finally buy some parts (Apple was years late in this compared to competitors). Have you seen how insane the rental tool kit is? https://selfservicerepair.com/en-US/tool-kit-rental https://selfservicerepair.com/en-US/tool-kit-rental Here’s a video showing how the battery replacement process works: https://youtu.be/3P1kEy--d9E https://youtu.be/3P1kEy--d9E Heres the part list for the iPhone 17 Pro tool kit: Case 1 661-17619 - Heated Display Removal Fixture 661-52832 - Heated Display Pocket Case 2 923-02657 - Battery Press 661-08916 - Display Press 923-01092 - Adhesive Cutter 922-5065 - Nylon Probe (Black Stick) 923-0248 - Black Torque Driver Kit 923-00738 - Gray Torque Driver 923-00105 - Green Torque Driver 923-0448 - Blue Torque Driver 923-01290 - Micro Stix® Bit 923-02066 - Super screw Bit 923-02995 - Adjustable torque driver (10-34 Ncm) 923-09176 - Adhesive Removal Tool 923-09177 - JCIS Bit for Adjustable Torque Driver 923-09962 - Superscrew Bit for Adjustable Torque Driver 923-08085 - Teal Torque Driver 923-08131 - Orange Torque Driver 923-07594 - Torx Plus 4IP 25mm bit 923-09721 - Housing Protective Cover 923-10961 - Display Protective Cover 923-12855 - Repair Tray 923-13313 - Back Protective Cover Magnetizer ESD-safe tweezers Case 3 923-13470 - Logic Board Dock 923-12856 - Logic Board Dock Insert (mmWave) 923-13465 - Logic Board Dock Insert (non-mmWave) This is not “self service,” this is service that requires professional level tools and skills masquerading as self-service to satisfy regulators. I think that Apple wants it to be this complicated so they can tell regulators “See? We complied but it’s totally insane, we told you users can’t possibly repair their own equipment!” Apple also has a long history of making repair difficult for third party repair companies. Meanwhile, the battery replacement process for the Fairphone only requires one tool: https://support.fairphone.com/hc/en-us/articles/24590029621138-The-Fairphone-Gen-6-Replace-a-Spare-Part https://support.fairphone.com/hc/en-us/articles/245900296211...
- shuntress 5mo ago
  First of all, they only do that because they are already forced. Second of all, have you actually looked at the process? It is very obviously onerous in ways that could be avoided.

dangus 6mo ago

Just the battery would be a great start. For a laptop, nearly everything should be modular.

Schiendelman 6mo ago

Please be careful not to argue to "force" a company to do something they already do... https://support.apple.com/self-service-repair https://support.apple.com/self-service-repair

dangus 6mo ago
Awesome that you can finally buy some parts (Apple was years late in this compared to competitors). Have you seen how insane the rental tool kit is? https://selfservicerepair.com/en-US/tool-kit-rental https://selfservicerepair.com/en-US/tool-kit-rental Here’s a video showing how the battery replacement process works: https://youtu.be/3P1kEy--d9E https://youtu.be/3P1kEy--d9E Heres the part list for the iPhone 17 Pro tool kit: Case 1 661-17619 - Heated Display Removal Fixture 661-52832 - Heated Display Pocket Case 2 923-02657 - Battery Press 661-08916 - Display Press 923-01092 - Adhesive Cutter 922-5065 - Nylon Probe (Black Stick) 923-0248 - Black Torque Driver Kit 923-00738 - Gray Torque Driver 923-00105 - Green Torque Driver 923-0448 - Blue Torque Driver 923-01290 - Micro Stix® Bit 923-02066 - Super screw Bit 923-02995 - Adjustable torque driver (10-34 Ncm) 923-09176 - Adhesive Removal Tool 923-09177 - JCIS Bit for Adjustable Torque Driver 923-09962 - Superscrew Bit for Adjustable Torque Driver 923-08085 - Teal Torque Driver 923-08131 - Orange Torque Driver 923-07594 - Torx Plus 4IP 25mm bit 923-09721 - Housing Protective Cover 923-10961 - Display Protective Cover 923-12855 - Repair Tray 923-13313 - Back Protective Cover Magnetizer ESD-safe tweezers Case 3 923-13470 - Logic Board Dock 923-12856 - Logic Board Dock Insert (mmWave) 923-13465 - Logic Board Dock Insert (non-mmWave) This is not “self service,” this is service that requires professional level tools and skills masquerading as self-service to satisfy regulators. I think that Apple wants it to be this complicated so they can tell regulators “See? We complied but it’s totally insane, we told you users can’t possibly repair their own equipment!” Apple also has a long history of making repair difficult for third party repair companies. Meanwhile, the battery replacement process for the Fairphone only requires one tool: https://support.fairphone.com/hc/en-us/articles/24590029621138-The-Fairphone-Gen-6-Replace-a-Spare-Part https://support.fairphone.com/hc/en-us/articles/245900296211...
shuntress 5mo ago
First of all, they only do that because they are already forced. Second of all, have you actually looked at the process? It is very obviously onerous in ways that could be avoided.