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Whoa! I’d slow down with the hypotheses, considering we have one side of the story. What we do know is that the US, like all other countries, has wide legal l

by refurb 6mo ago

Whoa! I’d slow down with the hypotheses, considering we have one side of the story. What we do know is that the US, like all other countries, has wide legal latitude on not allowing foreigners into the country. You can be denied entry for no more than a Facebook like of the wrong post.

pyrale 6mo ago
The EFF letter tends to line up with this guy’s story, though. Also, since google complied without giving him the ability to challenge the request, we will never have another version. In that context, it feels fair to accept the only version we have. The events he was likely targeted for happened on a campus in the US.
Jimmc414 6mo ago
The policy of applying US immigration enforcement actions against legal visa holders who have attended specific legal (US based) protests has been publicly reported and confirmed by many government officials and is unrelated to anyone trying to enter the country. Senior ICE officials have testified under oath in federal court that analysts were moved from counterterrorism, global trade, and cybercrime work to this group focused specifically on writing reports about people involved in student protests. https://www.cnn.com/2025/07/09/politics/ice-homeland-security-canary-mission https://www.cnn.com/2025/07/09/politics/ice-homeland-securit... https://time.com/7272060/international-students-targeted-trump-ice-detention-deport-campus-palestinian-activism/ https://time.com/7272060/international-students-targeted-tru... https://www.wbur.org/news/2025/07/10/ice-lawsuit-deportation-federal https://www.wbur.org/news/2025/07/10/ice-lawsuit-deportation...
- nullsanity 6mo ago
  Yes? Why would a government allow people who aren't citizens to come in and protest on its soil about its actions? I think that's the definition of forgein interference.
  - aleph_minus_one 6mo ago
    > Yes? Why would a government allow people who aren't citizens to come in and protest on its soil about its actions? Because the definition of what a "protest" is is very arbitrary and can be defined to suit your political agenda.
    - unselect5917 6mo ago
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      - aleph_minus_one 6mo ago
        > The United States has no motive in the constitution or otherwise to let anyone in who behaves in a hostile manner to the country, it's people, or its government. Here we are back at the same argument that I just brought: The definition of what "hostile" is is very arbitrary and can be defined to suit your political agenda.
      - actionfromafar 6mo ago
        So, it says here in this app right here, that you behave in a hostile manner.
      - jchanimal 6mo ago
        The behavior at issue is not hostile, it’s a patriotic duty. We typically laude immigrants who assimilate, so why not in this case?
        unselect5917 6mo ago
        >it’s a patriotic duty. For Americans, not foreigners.
        nickburns 6mo ago
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      - 6mo ago
intended 6mo ago
? hypotheses? The previous comment makes it clear that this situation cannot be operationalized without having lists of people who attended events. Now sure how you comment a continuation of the conversation?
exe34 6mo ago
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cde-v 6mo ago
Very big of you to hold off on judgement until judgement is irrelevant and you have the benefit of 20/20 hindsight.

by refurb 6mo ago

pyrale 6mo ago

The EFF letter tends to line up with this guy’s story, though. Also, since google complied without giving him the ability to challenge the request, we will never have another version. In that context, it feels fair to accept the only version we have. The events he was likely targeted for happened on a campus in the US.

Jimmc414 6mo ago

The policy of applying US immigration enforcement actions against legal visa holders who have attended specific legal (US based) protests has been publicly reported and confirmed by many government officials and is unrelated to anyone trying to enter the country. Senior ICE officials have testified under oath in federal court that analysts were moved from counterterrorism, global trade, and cybercrime work to this group focused specifically on writing reports about people involved in student protests. https://www.cnn.com/2025/07/09/politics/ice-homeland-security-canary-mission https://www.cnn.com/2025/07/09/politics/ice-homeland-securit... https://time.com/7272060/international-students-targeted-trump-ice-detention-deport-campus-palestinian-activism/ https://time.com/7272060/international-students-targeted-tru... https://www.wbur.org/news/2025/07/10/ice-lawsuit-deportation-federal https://www.wbur.org/news/2025/07/10/ice-lawsuit-deportation...

nullsanity 6mo ago
Yes? Why would a government allow people who aren't citizens to come in and protest on its soil about its actions? I think that's the definition of forgein interference.
- aleph_minus_one 6mo ago
  > Yes? Why would a government allow people who aren't citizens to come in and protest on its soil about its actions? Because the definition of what a "protest" is is very arbitrary and can be defined to suit your political agenda.
  - unselect5917 6mo ago
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    - aleph_minus_one 6mo ago
      > The United States has no motive in the constitution or otherwise to let anyone in who behaves in a hostile manner to the country, it's people, or its government. Here we are back at the same argument that I just brought: The definition of what "hostile" is is very arbitrary and can be defined to suit your political agenda.
    - actionfromafar 6mo ago
      So, it says here in this app right here, that you behave in a hostile manner.
    - jchanimal 6mo ago
      The behavior at issue is not hostile, it’s a patriotic duty. We typically laude immigrants who assimilate, so why not in this case?
      - unselect5917 6mo ago
        >it’s a patriotic duty. For Americans, not foreigners.
        nickburns 6mo ago
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    - 6mo ago

intended 6mo ago

? hypotheses? The previous comment makes it clear that this situation cannot be operationalized without having lists of people who attended events. Now sure how you comment a continuation of the conversation?

exe34 6mo ago

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cde-v 6mo ago

Very big of you to hold off on judgement until judgement is irrelevant and you have the benefit of 20/20 hindsight.