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Or there may be more to the story than he's telling.

junofan 7mo ago
Guy seems to have earned himself a ban from entering Cornell’s premises[1]. They seem to be letting him finish [2], which tracks—they’re pretty chill IME. Something might’ve went down… [1]: https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2025/oct/05/palestinian-foreigners-protests-campus-ai-ice-trump-us-migrant https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2025/oct/05/palest... [2]: https://panthernow.com/2026/03/03/international-students-self-deportation-raises-visa-and-privacy-concerns-for-other-international-students/ https://panthernow.com/2026/03/03/international-students-sel...
- pseudalopex 7mo ago
  This disruption, according to a University statement, involved shoving police officers, making guests of the University feel threatened and denying students the opportunity to experience the career fair. Sun reporters on the scene did not observe any physical violence towards law enforcement but did note distress among recruiters, students and administration involved in the career fair.[1] [1] https://www.cornellsun.com/article/2024/09/pro-palestine-protesters-disrupt-career-fair-confront-boeing-recruiters https://www.cornellsun.com/article/2024/09/pro-palestine-pro...
dwaltrip 7mo ago
Is there a specific reason for suspicion?
- traderj0e 7mo ago
  The fact that we're only hearing one side is suspicious enough
  - Yokohiii 7mo ago
    ICE is free to speak. I don't think they have interest to explain why they hunt someone.
    - aurmc 7mo ago
      Nor, I assume, do they have any interest to explain how they hunt someone.
    - traderj0e 7mo ago
      It's true, by not speaking ICE loses some credibility, but they won't speak even when they're right.
  - dwaltrip 7mo ago
    That’s rather generic… Do you apply that principle universally in your life? C’mon, be honest about why you doubt the story.
    - traderj0e 7mo ago
      Yeah I apply that principle. To be honest, it's that plus the fact that this article omits things we already know. It wasn't just that he "attended a pro-Palestine protest at Cornell University," they shut down a jobs fair. I went to a liberal college too, I know that a lot of these "peaceful" protests are actually quite forceful and infringe on others' rights more than anyone ever reports. My bias is in the other direction if anything. The author was protesting the US involvement with Israel, and even if he did something wrong, I believe he was targeted for this reason only. If you ask me, Israel has way too much control over US politics and other institutions. AIPAC and ADL ought to be classified as foreign entities because they de facto represent Israel's govt here, and there are some people in those orgs I consider outright traitors to the USA because they're making us pay taxes to a small country overseas. We need like a Tea Party 3.0 (unfortunately 2.0 already happened).
      - dwaltrip 7mo ago
        Thank you for elaborating. Now I understand where you are coming from better. It’s a huge pet peeve of mine when people don’t say what they are actually thinking :)
      - dmix 7mo ago
        > because they're making us pay taxes to a small country overseas. I read recently that 80% of the money the US commits to Israel has to be spent in the United States. Similar to the US funding Ukraine it is largely just buying from domestic US manufacturers or old stockpiles. It's a sort of stimulus program that funds the US military industrial complex and prop up allies. There was law passed that 100% of foreign military financing has to be spent in the US in 2028. Israel gets $3b/yr, Egypt $1.3B/yr, Jordan $1.4B/yr, Taiwan etc. Lebanon recently started getting financing. Pakistan used to be a big beneficiary.
- buttersicle 7mo ago
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Guy seems to have earned himself a ban from entering Cornell’s premises[1]. They seem to be letting him finish [2], which tracks—they’re pretty chill IME. Something might’ve went down… [1]: https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2025/oct/05/palestinian-foreigners-protests-campus-ai-ice-trump-us-migrant https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2025/oct/05/palest... [2]: https://panthernow.com/2026/03/03/international-students-self-deportation-raises-visa-and-privacy-concerns-for-other-international-students/ https://panthernow.com/2026/03/03/international-students-sel...

pseudalopex 7mo ago
This disruption, according to a University statement, involved shoving police officers, making guests of the University feel threatened and denying students the opportunity to experience the career fair. Sun reporters on the scene did not observe any physical violence towards law enforcement but did note distress among recruiters, students and administration involved in the career fair.[1] [1] https://www.cornellsun.com/article/2024/09/pro-palestine-protesters-disrupt-career-fair-confront-boeing-recruiters https://www.cornellsun.com/article/2024/09/pro-palestine-pro...

dwaltrip 7mo ago

Is there a specific reason for suspicion?

traderj0e 7mo ago
The fact that we're only hearing one side is suspicious enough
- Yokohiii 7mo ago
  ICE is free to speak. I don't think they have interest to explain why they hunt someone.
  - aurmc 7mo ago
    Nor, I assume, do they have any interest to explain how they hunt someone.
  - traderj0e 7mo ago
    It's true, by not speaking ICE loses some credibility, but they won't speak even when they're right.
- dwaltrip 7mo ago
  That’s rather generic… Do you apply that principle universally in your life? C’mon, be honest about why you doubt the story.
  - traderj0e 7mo ago
    Yeah I apply that principle. To be honest, it's that plus the fact that this article omits things we already know. It wasn't just that he "attended a pro-Palestine protest at Cornell University," they shut down a jobs fair. I went to a liberal college too, I know that a lot of these "peaceful" protests are actually quite forceful and infringe on others' rights more than anyone ever reports. My bias is in the other direction if anything. The author was protesting the US involvement with Israel, and even if he did something wrong, I believe he was targeted for this reason only. If you ask me, Israel has way too much control over US politics and other institutions. AIPAC and ADL ought to be classified as foreign entities because they de facto represent Israel's govt here, and there are some people in those orgs I consider outright traitors to the USA because they're making us pay taxes to a small country overseas. We need like a Tea Party 3.0 (unfortunately 2.0 already happened).
    - dwaltrip 7mo ago
      Thank you for elaborating. Now I understand where you are coming from better. It’s a huge pet peeve of mine when people don’t say what they are actually thinking :)
    - dmix 7mo ago
      > because they're making us pay taxes to a small country overseas. I read recently that 80% of the money the US commits to Israel has to be spent in the United States. Similar to the US funding Ukraine it is largely just buying from domestic US manufacturers or old stockpiles. It's a sort of stimulus program that funds the US military industrial complex and prop up allies. There was law passed that 100% of foreign military financing has to be spent in the US in 2028. Israel gets $3b/yr, Egypt $1.3B/yr, Jordan $1.4B/yr, Taiwan etc. Lebanon recently started getting financing. Pakistan used to be a big beneficiary.
buttersicle 7mo ago
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