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Does anyone remember when western nations were freaking out that Huawei would handle everybody personal data to the Chinese government? Now, please tell me tha
by diego_moita 6mo ago
Does anyone remember when western nations were freaking out that Huawei would handle everybody personal data to the Chinese government?
Now, please tell me that American companies are better at privacy than the Chinese ones.
Btw, some alternative email providers in truly democratic countries:
* ProtonMail (Switzerland)
* TutaMail, Posteo, Mailbox.org and Eclipso (Germany)
* Runbox (Norway)
* Mailfence (Belgium)
- j2kun 6mo agoIn that case, the US was worried about espionage, not violation of civil liberties.
- eaf7e281 6mo agoAmerican companies give data to the U.S. Chinese companies give data to China. I don't trust either of them, but if I had to choose, I would use Chinese products in the U.S. and vice versa.
- traderj0e 6mo agoNone of those countries are interested in free speech, not even this particular kind of speech, especially Germany.
- notrealyme123 6mo agoThey don't sack you from the street and put you in a Camp. At least not anymore. Say what you want about especially Germany, but there you don't get sued by the president for billions if he doesn't like your opinion.
- traderj0e 6mo agoGermany will literally fine you for viewpoints, including criticism of Israel. What happens if you don't pay?
- ExpertAdvisor01 6mo agoAlso you can't insult anyone especially politicians (which Americans like to do ) in Germany as it is a crime . https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schwachkopf-Aff%C3%A4re https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schwachkopf-Aff%C3%A4re
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- ExpertAdvisor01 6mo agoIt's worse in Germany. https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schwachkopf-Aff%C3%A4re https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schwachkopf-Aff%C3%A4re
- notrealyme123 6mo agoEverything about his Robert habeck comment was dropped by the courts.
- jll29 6mo agoPersonally, I would not trust anyone (e.g. ProtonMail) more than Google. If you have sensitive things in your emails, host your own mail, use GPG encryption or a one-time pad, or even avoid electronic networked machines altogether (depending on the level of security that you require). Switzerland-hosted services are no safer than others, recall that Crypto AG, who promised to sell secure encryption machines, were just a cover by foreign intelligence services (jointly US/DE-owned/operated by the CIA & BND).
- dylan604 6mo ago> host your own mail This is such a myopic view of the situation. Are you going to only exchange emails with people you host as well? Otherwise, anyone you exchange emails with will go through other email providers.