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Using Photoshop to paste a face on a nude body has significant frictions that a non-guardrailed foundation model eliminates. Furthermore, most people are not t

Using Photoshop to paste a face on a nude body has significant frictions that a non-guardrailed foundation model eliminates. Furthermore, most people are not technical in nature and cannot tell the difference between deepfakes and real photos and videos in short bursts. Basically, the friction needed to develop revenge porn has been dramatically reduced.

brazzy 7mo ago
> Most people are not technical in nature and cannot tell the difference between deepfakes and real photos and videos They don't need to. The point is that eventually, everyone will just assume it's a fake, exactly because you can't tell, and fakes are easier to produce and thus more common than real leaked nude photos and videos. At that point, a deepfake shouldn't be more socially damaging than a rumor.
- ceejayoz 7mo ago
  > At that point, a deepfake shouldn't be more socially damaging than a rumor. Rumors can be exceedingly damaging - to the point of death - even without convincing photographic evidence of it.
  - brazzy 7mo ago
    Yes - but we've been dealing with that reality pretty much since humans existed.
    - ceejayoz 7mo ago
      And we were dealing with "people kill other people" before nukes and guns and explosives and knives. But the fancier tooling changed things a bit each time.
- yoz-y 7mo ago
  Eventually maybe, but we’re not there yet. After social media became common it was also hypothesized that embarrassing stories dug up from somebody’s last would not be harmful anymore but that future has never materialized.
- red-iron-pine 7mo ago
  if we ever get to that point, where it is no longer capable to distinguish true from falsity, they're done as a society. this is not a good, nor should it ever be, an inevitable thing
  - brazzy 7mo ago
    Human society existed, survived, and improved before photographic or video evidence was a thing. I don't see how these becoming useless would be an unsurmountable blow.

brazzy 7mo ago

> Most people are not technical in nature and cannot tell the difference between deepfakes and real photos and videos They don't need to. The point is that eventually, everyone will just assume it's a fake, exactly because you can't tell, and fakes are easier to produce and thus more common than real leaked nude photos and videos. At that point, a deepfake shouldn't be more socially damaging than a rumor.

ceejayoz 7mo ago
> At that point, a deepfake shouldn't be more socially damaging than a rumor. Rumors can be exceedingly damaging - to the point of death - even without convincing photographic evidence of it.
- brazzy 7mo ago
  Yes - but we've been dealing with that reality pretty much since humans existed.
  - ceejayoz 7mo ago
    And we were dealing with "people kill other people" before nukes and guns and explosives and knives. But the fancier tooling changed things a bit each time.
yoz-y 7mo ago
Eventually maybe, but we’re not there yet. After social media became common it was also hypothesized that embarrassing stories dug up from somebody’s last would not be harmful anymore but that future has never materialized.
red-iron-pine 7mo ago
if we ever get to that point, where it is no longer capable to distinguish true from falsity, they're done as a society. this is not a good, nor should it ever be, an inevitable thing
- brazzy 7mo ago
  Human society existed, survived, and improved before photographic or video evidence was a thing. I don't see how these becoming useless would be an unsurmountable blow.