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Thessaloniki had the same issue, and now there's a stop where you have walkways above the ruins. Some photos of the "before" here: https://www.thessalonikigui

by stavros 7mo ago

Thessaloniki had the same issue, and now there's a stop where you have walkways above the ruins. Some photos of the "before" here: https://www.thessalonikiguide.gr/metro-thessalonikis-mia-arxaia-poli-anadietai-apo-ta-themelia-toy/ https://www.thessalonikiguide.gr/metro-thessalonikis-mia-arx...

pjmlp 7mo ago
As one of the cities I spend part of my life, the new metro experience is great, and how they integrated the stations into old Greek infrastructure. I only morn the loss of jobs that could have been part of the metro, if the wagons weren't robots.
- stavros 7mo ago
  That's great to hear, I've only been in it once (I prefer to cycle on the waterfront), but I hear the ticket machines still don't accept cards. Typical Greece, though it's nice that it actually works well for what it is.
  - pjmlp 7mo ago
    I was there now during both Easters, they do actually, the biggest problem is having different cards for metro and bus. Actually we have the same problem in Lisbon and Porto, the cards you can top up are company specific, only the monthly subscriptions work across companies.
    - stavros 7mo ago
      I meant credit cards, it used to be that you can only pay cash. I agree, though, in London everything just takes credit cards so you have no dedicated ticket cards. Much more convenient.
    - ThePowerOfFuet 7mo ago
      >Actually we have the same problem in Lisbon and Porto, the cards you can top up are company specific What do you mean? The Navegante works for all of it in Lisboa!
      - pjmlp 7mo ago
        Navegante is a monthly ticket I was talking about, replacing the old L1, L12, L123, L123X kind of monthly subscriptions. If you get simple tickets they will only cover Metro/Carris, then you need additional ones for CP, Fertagus, Transtejo, Softlusa. Do the multimodal finally cover all of them, it has been a few years since I was a few days in Lisbon beyond the airport and travel north? It used to be that some could be reused between transports, but only if the amount of travels was empty, and then recharged on the other system, being tied to it, until the travels would reach zero again.
riffraff 7mo ago
I believe Athens was the first city to do this some decades ago. Once again Romans taking "inspiration" from the Greeks :)

by stavros 7mo ago

pjmlp 7mo ago

As one of the cities I spend part of my life, the new metro experience is great, and how they integrated the stations into old Greek infrastructure. I only morn the loss of jobs that could have been part of the metro, if the wagons weren't robots.

stavros 7mo ago
That's great to hear, I've only been in it once (I prefer to cycle on the waterfront), but I hear the ticket machines still don't accept cards. Typical Greece, though it's nice that it actually works well for what it is.
- pjmlp 7mo ago
  I was there now during both Easters, they do actually, the biggest problem is having different cards for metro and bus. Actually we have the same problem in Lisbon and Porto, the cards you can top up are company specific, only the monthly subscriptions work across companies.
  - stavros 7mo ago
    I meant credit cards, it used to be that you can only pay cash. I agree, though, in London everything just takes credit cards so you have no dedicated ticket cards. Much more convenient.
  - ThePowerOfFuet 7mo ago
    >Actually we have the same problem in Lisbon and Porto, the cards you can top up are company specific What do you mean? The Navegante works for all of it in Lisboa!
    - pjmlp 7mo ago
      Navegante is a monthly ticket I was talking about, replacing the old L1, L12, L123, L123X kind of monthly subscriptions. If you get simple tickets they will only cover Metro/Carris, then you need additional ones for CP, Fertagus, Transtejo, Softlusa. Do the multimodal finally cover all of them, it has been a few years since I was a few days in Lisbon beyond the airport and travel north? It used to be that some could be reused between transports, but only if the amount of travels was empty, and then recharged on the other system, being tied to it, until the travels would reach zero again.

riffraff 7mo ago

I believe Athens was the first city to do this some decades ago. Once again Romans taking "inspiration" from the Greeks :)