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What makes you say that?

elAhmo 6mo ago
Mentioning drinking three times (effects of drinks in the evening, hangover, effects on learning) in a single response might give an impression you like to drink.
- egormakarov 6mo ago
  I mean, they sell alcohol in shops for money, and not force it on you in some government-mandated way. Which kinda tells that people in general like to drink.
  - master-lincoln 6mo ago
    > Which kinda tells that people in general like to drink. No, it just tells you there is enough demand for alcohol selling to be a profitable business, not that people in general like to drink.
    - mainmailman 6mo ago
      There are bars everywhere
      - master-lincoln 6mo ago
        There are also gambling machines everywhere around me yet I don't know a single person who uses them. I looked up numbers for the USA and 2025 54% said they consume alcohol. So it's most people but millions don't.
        IAmBroom 6mo ago
        "Most". Kinda proves the general point: alcohol consumption is common.
        integralid 6mo ago
        Huh, that's much less than I expected! Apparently it's just for adult population (correctly). Apparently that varies from year to year (in 2024 it was 64%), and by race (highest in white people 70%). I also wonder how that looks when we exclude older people (let's say over 60) who more often have health problems or just tolerate alcohol very badly). It's higher in my country so good to know that USA drinks less than I assumed.
- soco 6mo ago
  The topic is drinking so they mentioned drinking, and usually people do what they like to do, and in other news water is wet - but do we judge water for being wet? So let's stop virtue signaling because it's definitely not a show of virtue. I see where religious fundamentalism is taking the world and damn if I like it.
  - Ifkaluva 6mo ago
    I’m not religious at all, and it’s not religious fundamentalism to point out that alcohol disrupts sleep, and that this likely is the primary factor affecting the poster’s sleep. Also not religious fundamentalism to point out that alcohol is a known carcinogen (: that’s just science. It’s a Group 1 carcinogen, the same group as tobacco and asbestos.
    - dr_dshiv 6mo ago
      Sunlight is a carcinogen
      - kashunstva 6mo ago
        > Sunlight is a carcinogen But sunlight is essential for the cutaneous conversion of 7-dehydrocholesterol to vitamin D3, whereas ethanol serves no essential purpose, irrespective of whether one enjoys it or not. Personally I don’t consume ethanol; but I don’t care if others do or not so long as they stay off the roads and are not piloting my flight. I will say that when I did consume ethanol even in small quantities, my sleep was much worse than it is at baseline; and that effect only worsened as I got older.
        dr_dshiv 6mo ago
        Ethanol is food— you also don't need carbs, but they do keep you alive. More importantly, it fairly central to cultural vitality. Not essential but it plays a highly functional role. Maybe could be replaced by religion or other drugs, but short of that, the world is less vibrant without it.
  - 6mo ago

Mentioning drinking three times (effects of drinks in the evening, hangover, effects on learning) in a single response might give an impression you like to drink.

egormakarov 6mo ago
I mean, they sell alcohol in shops for money, and not force it on you in some government-mandated way. Which kinda tells that people in general like to drink.
- master-lincoln 6mo ago
  > Which kinda tells that people in general like to drink. No, it just tells you there is enough demand for alcohol selling to be a profitable business, not that people in general like to drink.
  - mainmailman 6mo ago
    There are bars everywhere
    - master-lincoln 6mo ago
      There are also gambling machines everywhere around me yet I don't know a single person who uses them. I looked up numbers for the USA and 2025 54% said they consume alcohol. So it's most people but millions don't.
      - IAmBroom 6mo ago
        "Most". Kinda proves the general point: alcohol consumption is common.
      - integralid 6mo ago
        Huh, that's much less than I expected! Apparently it's just for adult population (correctly). Apparently that varies from year to year (in 2024 it was 64%), and by race (highest in white people 70%). I also wonder how that looks when we exclude older people (let's say over 60) who more often have health problems or just tolerate alcohol very badly). It's higher in my country so good to know that USA drinks less than I assumed.
soco 6mo ago
The topic is drinking so they mentioned drinking, and usually people do what they like to do, and in other news water is wet - but do we judge water for being wet? So let's stop virtue signaling because it's definitely not a show of virtue. I see where religious fundamentalism is taking the world and damn if I like it.
- Ifkaluva 6mo ago
  I’m not religious at all, and it’s not religious fundamentalism to point out that alcohol disrupts sleep, and that this likely is the primary factor affecting the poster’s sleep. Also not religious fundamentalism to point out that alcohol is a known carcinogen (: that’s just science. It’s a Group 1 carcinogen, the same group as tobacco and asbestos.
  - dr_dshiv 6mo ago
    Sunlight is a carcinogen
    - kashunstva 6mo ago
      > Sunlight is a carcinogen But sunlight is essential for the cutaneous conversion of 7-dehydrocholesterol to vitamin D3, whereas ethanol serves no essential purpose, irrespective of whether one enjoys it or not. Personally I don’t consume ethanol; but I don’t care if others do or not so long as they stay off the roads and are not piloting my flight. I will say that when I did consume ethanol even in small quantities, my sleep was much worse than it is at baseline; and that effect only worsened as I got older.
      - dr_dshiv 6mo ago
        Ethanol is food— you also don't need carbs, but they do keep you alive. More importantly, it fairly central to cultural vitality. Not essential but it plays a highly functional role. Maybe could be replaced by religion or other drugs, but short of that, the world is less vibrant without it.
- 6mo ago