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I guess there's some confusion in that I don't think anybody's saying everyone should pirate everything all the time. That would, indeed, be problematic. But i
by squigz 6mo ago
I guess there's some confusion in that I don't think anybody's saying everyone should pirate everything all the time. That would, indeed, be problematic.
But if companies keep pushing people to piracy... well, I'm not going to blame the people first, that's for sure. Especially when things like TFA happen.
- otterley 6mo agoBut if you can excuse it for yourself, why shouldn’t the same reasoning hold for everyone else? Do you not see the slippery slope here?
- squigz 6mo agoNo, I don't really see the slippery slope. If there were such a slope, I would imagine that decades into this piracy thing, we'd be sliding down it. Yet most people don't pirate. Strange?
- otterley 6mo agoSo you really don't understand that it should be OK for everyone to pirate if it's OK for you? Would you ever tell someone it's not OK? If so, why? And what makes you special and different?
- necovek 6mo agoWe aren't saying anything you are implying. You've started with a retort to a point that some who would never pay for some copyrighted work are not a loss to copyright owner if they illegally use their work. You've since expanded to everyone and SW development, and want to extend it to people who are willing to pay for the value a particular work provides them. So let's go back to the beginning: can you please quantify how big is a loss to the copyright owner if one watches a movie they would skip if the only option was to pay for it?
- otterley 6mo agoNo, I'm not going to do that. And here's why: because if you have an excuse, everyone has an excuse. And if everyone has an excuse, the entire system falls apart. I'll reiterate what I said above: entertainment and software are not life's essentials. Nobody's going to be seriously harmed by being denied access to them.
- squigz 6mo ago> Nobody's going to be seriously harmed by being denied access to them. Nobody's going to be seriously harmed by us pirating them, either. On the other hand, I bet there have been some pretty serious repercussions due to the sweeping bans like in TFA.
- otterley 6mo ago> Nobody's going to be seriously harmed by us pirating them, either. The logic here is quite simple: if you don't have to pay, nobody else has to pay, either, because you're not special. If nobody pays, then people who make media and software won't get paid, and production will slow to a crawl. You'll have destroyed the very thing you seem to desire enough to steal. How does this not make sense to you?
- squigz 6mo agoMaybe because I'm not so arrogant as to imply everyone has to have the same views and act the same way as me, nor to imply that my view is the only right one. But nah, you're right. Nobody has to pay. Everybody should pirate. Now, that's been true for decades, of course. So why hasn't the entire system fallen apart?
- otterley 6mo ago> I'm not so arrogant Believing oneself to be special and above the law such that one feels justified in trampling on others' rights is textbook arrogance.