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It’s hard for the market to decide on its own when the environmental damage of meat production is left as an unpriced externality and when government subsidies
by _aavaa_ 6mo ago
It’s hard for the market to decide on its own when the environmental damage of meat production is left as an unpriced externality and when government subsidies are handed out like candy.
- tracker1 6mo ago[flagged]
- datsci_est_2015 6mo agoIs the deforestation of the Amazon overblown? What about the draining of American aquifers?
- tracker1 6mo ago[flagged]
- _aavaa_ 6mo ago> In terms of the Amazon... that was done BY humans... the cattle didn't tear down any trees. This is a pedantic distinction that accomplishes nothing. The humans did it to grow cattle for food. If the price of that destruction had to be paid by the producers/consumers there would be a lot less people eating meat.
- GeoAtreides 6mo ago>In terms of the Amazon... that was done BY humans... the cattle didn't tear down any trees literally the funniest thing I have ever read on HN, well done
- tracker1 6mo agoThe point is... blame the specific organizations and nations that allow(ed) such practices, not all of meat producers and consumers.
- irishcoffee 6mo agoPretty sure the western US states are in a water shortage because they grow almonds et. al. In places that were not meant to be agricultural, importing water, fucking up the entire ecosystem of the region and causing massive water shortages, and massive environmental damage. But yeah, we can keep focusing on the farting cows, that’s the problem.
- _aavaa_ 6mo agoAsk yourself why they are growing almonds there if it’s such a problem? Because those almond growers have water right contracts that are absurdly cheap and are use it or lose it. Fine by me though, add in the environmental costs for almonds too. Would you support an initiative of pricing these externalities on food, or is it just a snarky comment about cow farts?
- irishcoffee 6mo agoSo you're good with artificially fucking the water supply?
- _aavaa_ 6mo agoDo you care about the water use from almonds or is it just a shallow hatch point to not have to talk about the damages from raising animals for food? Is the water use from almonds a problem or is it fine and any changes would be “fucking the water supply”?
- bluedino 6mo agoI'd bet the people who don't eat beef eat a lot more almonds than those who do.