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I mean duh, but also this seems like a fairly weak gotcha. Cookies != Tracking, they can track you just fine without cookies, and they can use cookies without

I mean duh, but also this seems like a fairly weak gotcha. Cookies != Tracking, they can track you just fine without cookies, and they can use cookies without tracking you.

rockskon 6mo ago
Cooking != Tracking? That's historically been a very prominent purpose of cookies. Sure it's not exclusively tracking, but it's nonsense to make the assertion that "Cookies != Tracking"
- tlibert 6mo ago
  Cookies serve a lot of valuable purposes, it's important to disambiguate.
  - rockskon 6mo ago
    Sure. But given the lack of specificity from the person I was responding to, it felt important to correct.
- dec0dedab0de 6mo ago
  Sure it's not exclusively tracking, but it's nonsense to make the assertion that "Cookies != Tracking" They're not primarily for tracking either.
benrutter 6mo ago
> Cookies != Tracking, they can track you just fine without cookies That's probably true, but not what the articles reporting: > 55 percent of the sites it checked set ad cookies in a user’s browser even if they opted out of tracking So essentially, it's ignoring user preference directly, not just in spirit.
- Balinares 6mo ago
  "Legitimate interest."
  - tlibert 6mo ago
    That concept is applicable to the European Union, doesn't apply in California.
tlibert 6mo ago
The report is specifically ads cookies and includes links to primary source disclosures on the websites of the companies mentioned. We did not count things like DDoS cookies, login tokens, and the like. We operate with unparalleled precision in our domain.
- zbentley 6mo ago
  I'm curious why this was downvoted--I'm not complaining or trying to go against HN guidelines; I'm genuinely unclear as to why the first-party source for the article clarifying the question in GP was marked dead. Bad actors? Misinterpretation? Other?
  - tlibert 6mo ago
    No idea, I thought it was a valid question and we go to great lengths in our methodology for this reason. The audits we supply for enterprise are highly specific as to cookie purpose for this reason: https://webxray.ai https://webxray.ai

I mean duh, but also this seems like a fairly weak gotcha. Cookies != Tracking, they can track you just fine without cookies, and they can use cookies without tracking you.

rockskon 6mo ago

Cooking != Tracking? That's historically been a very prominent purpose of cookies. Sure it's not exclusively tracking, but it's nonsense to make the assertion that "Cookies != Tracking"

tlibert 6mo ago
Cookies serve a lot of valuable purposes, it's important to disambiguate.
- rockskon 6mo ago
  Sure. But given the lack of specificity from the person I was responding to, it felt important to correct.
dec0dedab0de 6mo ago
Sure it's not exclusively tracking, but it's nonsense to make the assertion that "Cookies != Tracking" They're not primarily for tracking either.

benrutter 6mo ago

> Cookies != Tracking, they can track you just fine without cookies That's probably true, but not what the articles reporting: > 55 percent of the sites it checked set ad cookies in a user’s browser even if they opted out of tracking So essentially, it's ignoring user preference directly, not just in spirit.

Balinares 6mo ago
"Legitimate interest."
- tlibert 6mo ago
  That concept is applicable to the European Union, doesn't apply in California.

tlibert 6mo ago

The report is specifically ads cookies and includes links to primary source disclosures on the websites of the companies mentioned. We did not count things like DDoS cookies, login tokens, and the like. We operate with unparalleled precision in our domain.

zbentley 6mo ago
I'm curious why this was downvoted--I'm not complaining or trying to go against HN guidelines; I'm genuinely unclear as to why the first-party source for the article clarifying the question in GP was marked dead. Bad actors? Misinterpretation? Other?
- tlibert 6mo ago
  No idea, I thought it was a valid question and we go to great lengths in our methodology for this reason. The audits we supply for enterprise are highly specific as to cookie purpose for this reason: https://webxray.ai https://webxray.ai