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Also www.reddit.com is/was doing the same back button hijacking. From google.com visiting a post, then clicking back and you would find yourself on Reddit gener

Also www.reddit.com is/was doing the same back button hijacking. From google.com visiting a post, then clicking back and you would find yourself on Reddit general feed instead of back to Google.

cli 6mo ago
I do not see this behaviour on the latest version of Firefox. I do use old.reddit, however.
- myrion 6mo ago
  I don't use old Reddit, and haven't noticed this behaviour either.
  - moritzwarhier 6mo ago
    Sounds like maybe some prevention against this is already implemented in either particular Android browsers, or ad blockers, maybe even for specific sites? Just speculating, I can't imagine a reason why they'd implement this especially for Safari. Other than A/B-testing or trash code that coincidentally doesn't work in all mobile browsers. Maybe they use the same AI that generates their fictious relationship stories to add these dark patterns to their code base :D
    - fluidcruft 6mo ago
      My understanding is that Apple keeps Safari fairly broken and doesn't care to implement the Googleverse and leaves a lot of things E_WONTFIX. I have read speculation that broken Safari encourages apps in the App Store.
      - moritzwarhier 6mo ago
        hm yeah but the History API is not new or exclusive to Google, also my understanding was that the discussion is about the annoyance "working" on iOS Safari, but not on other platforms. Any way, too many variables here.
- TeMPOraL 6mo ago
  Old Reddit doesn't do this, it's the "new" one that pretends to be an app, that does it and host of other stupid/user-hostile shit.
  - J_Shelby_J 6mo ago
    In any case, Reddit lets open links in a new tab in their settings, which resolved the issue for me.
DaiPlusPlus 6mo ago
I'm pretty sure what you're describing is this long-standing bug[1] I've experienced only when using Mobile Safari on Reddit - affecting both old.reddit.com and the (horrible) modern Reddit. It just doesn't happen in other browsers/engines except on iOS. It's especially annoying on an iPad when I tend to use back/forward instead of open-in-new-tab-then-close on iPhone. [1] At least, I hope it's a bug.
- _cadp 6mo ago
  A bug that just coincidentally affects the only reddit visitors that are worth any money?
  - embedding-shape 6mo ago
    Just like finally getting rid of r/all on mobile just happens to bury a bunch of political stuff reddit executives and their friends don't agree with
    - 100721 6mo ago
      Huh? I exclusively view r/all and its loading fine for me across all devices.
      - Ohmec 6mo ago
        You probably use old.reddit and a legacy app, right?
      - embedding-shape 6mo ago
        Even manually typing reddit.com/r/all (or r/All, which was a workaround for a while) in the address bar on iOS Safari redirects you to reddit.com/. Since I'm guessing you're not browsing reddit.com, what client are you using?
        CDRdude 6mo ago
        This is available for me on iOS https://old.reddit.com/r/all/ https://old.reddit.com/r/all/
Bombthecat 6mo ago
News sites are doing it too. Displaying a full display ad when you try to leave
- jeffbee 6mo ago
  I would just like to point out that this was one of the things that the AMP straightjacket prevented. The whole online news industry has conclusively demonstrated that it can't be trusted with javascript and must be hospitalized, but they refuse to acknowledge their own illness.
  - kevin_thibedeau 6mo ago
    AMP sites listed on Android Assistant routinely messed with back button behavior to trap you.
  - kube-system 6mo ago
    Is it news sites fault or is it the fault of web standards/browser developers for failing to build any viable mechanisms for monetizing content? The issue is hardly isolated to news outlets. It's endemic to the web.
    - LorenPechtel 6mo ago
      Yeah, and I think it's pretty much impossible to solve. Look what happened with Netflix. They actually got it right, a reasonable price for a bunch of stuff which would end up appropriated based on demand (they needed to have the disk to rent.) And how you have a bunch of players trying to compete in the space, each with it's exclusive content to try to make you choose them. And look what's happened with Google's "news". It's more and more and more clickbait. I used to think the answer was a small charge per article, run through some aggregator that tracked payment. But these days we see things designed to get you to open the page, not to actually provide value. Or look at the problems Amazon has had with it's Kindle Unlimited stuff--books designed to game the metrics, groups engaging in read each other's books behavior etc.
- 6mo ago
ChocolateGod 6mo ago
I usually find the back button just doesn't work on new Reddit at all.
hobofan 6mo ago
IIRC Reddit is also doing the same thing on their mobile (Android) app.
SilasX 6mo ago
Even on old.reddit, it breaks the back button. When you navigate back, it usually reloads the entire page you were on and ignores all your collapse actions on conversations.

Also www.reddit.com is/was doing the same back button hijacking. From google.com visiting a post, then clicking back and you would find yourself on Reddit general feed instead of back to Google.

cli 6mo ago

I do not see this behaviour on the latest version of Firefox. I do use old.reddit, however.

myrion 6mo ago
I don't use old Reddit, and haven't noticed this behaviour either.
- moritzwarhier 6mo ago
  Sounds like maybe some prevention against this is already implemented in either particular Android browsers, or ad blockers, maybe even for specific sites? Just speculating, I can't imagine a reason why they'd implement this especially for Safari. Other than A/B-testing or trash code that coincidentally doesn't work in all mobile browsers. Maybe they use the same AI that generates their fictious relationship stories to add these dark patterns to their code base :D
  - fluidcruft 6mo ago
    My understanding is that Apple keeps Safari fairly broken and doesn't care to implement the Googleverse and leaves a lot of things E_WONTFIX. I have read speculation that broken Safari encourages apps in the App Store.
    - moritzwarhier 6mo ago
      hm yeah but the History API is not new or exclusive to Google, also my understanding was that the discussion is about the annoyance "working" on iOS Safari, but not on other platforms. Any way, too many variables here.
TeMPOraL 6mo ago
Old Reddit doesn't do this, it's the "new" one that pretends to be an app, that does it and host of other stupid/user-hostile shit.
- J_Shelby_J 6mo ago
  In any case, Reddit lets open links in a new tab in their settings, which resolved the issue for me.

DaiPlusPlus 6mo ago

I'm pretty sure what you're describing is this long-standing bug[1] I've experienced only when using Mobile Safari on Reddit - affecting both old.reddit.com and the (horrible) modern Reddit. It just doesn't happen in other browsers/engines except on iOS. It's especially annoying on an iPad when I tend to use back/forward instead of open-in-new-tab-then-close on iPhone. [1] At least, I hope it's a bug.

_cadp 6mo ago
A bug that just coincidentally affects the only reddit visitors that are worth any money?
- embedding-shape 6mo ago
  Just like finally getting rid of r/all on mobile just happens to bury a bunch of political stuff reddit executives and their friends don't agree with
  - 100721 6mo ago
    Huh? I exclusively view r/all and its loading fine for me across all devices.
    - Ohmec 6mo ago
      You probably use old.reddit and a legacy app, right?
    - embedding-shape 6mo ago
      Even manually typing reddit.com/r/all (or r/All, which was a workaround for a while) in the address bar on iOS Safari redirects you to reddit.com/. Since I'm guessing you're not browsing reddit.com, what client are you using?
      - CDRdude 6mo ago
        This is available for me on iOS https://old.reddit.com/r/all/ https://old.reddit.com/r/all/

Bombthecat 6mo ago

News sites are doing it too. Displaying a full display ad when you try to leave

jeffbee 6mo ago
I would just like to point out that this was one of the things that the AMP straightjacket prevented. The whole online news industry has conclusively demonstrated that it can't be trusted with javascript and must be hospitalized, but they refuse to acknowledge their own illness.
- kevin_thibedeau 6mo ago
  AMP sites listed on Android Assistant routinely messed with back button behavior to trap you.
- kube-system 6mo ago
  Is it news sites fault or is it the fault of web standards/browser developers for failing to build any viable mechanisms for monetizing content? The issue is hardly isolated to news outlets. It's endemic to the web.
  - LorenPechtel 6mo ago
    Yeah, and I think it's pretty much impossible to solve. Look what happened with Netflix. They actually got it right, a reasonable price for a bunch of stuff which would end up appropriated based on demand (they needed to have the disk to rent.) And how you have a bunch of players trying to compete in the space, each with it's exclusive content to try to make you choose them. And look what's happened with Google's "news". It's more and more and more clickbait. I used to think the answer was a small charge per article, run through some aggregator that tracked payment. But these days we see things designed to get you to open the page, not to actually provide value. Or look at the problems Amazon has had with it's Kindle Unlimited stuff--books designed to game the metrics, groups engaging in read each other's books behavior etc.
6mo ago

ChocolateGod 6mo ago

I usually find the back button just doesn't work on new Reddit at all.

hobofan 6mo ago

IIRC Reddit is also doing the same thing on their mobile (Android) app.

SilasX 6mo ago

Even on old.reddit, it breaks the back button. When you navigate back, it usually reloads the entire page you were on and ignores all your collapse actions on conversations.