You know what, you're right. The newton was Gassée, and jobs probably did nothing with the laser printer. However, i think stuff like this: http://www.folklore

You know what, you're right. The newton was Gassée, and jobs probably did nothing with the laser printer. However, i think stuff like this: http://www.folklore.org/StoryView.py?project=Macintosh&story=Round_Rects_Are_Everywhere.txt http://www.folklore.org/StoryView.py?project=Macintosh&s... indicates Jobs pushed good people to do their best work. The mac wouldn't be the mac without jobs. Neither would the Next cube. Maybe John Chambers is just as involved with every product Cisco makes, but a terrible self promoter.