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Forgive me if this is pointless cynicism but fountain of creative ideas? * A music player * A phone * A portable computer Not exactly the most innovative pr

Forgive me if this is pointless cynicism but fountain of creative ideas? * A music player * A phone * A portable computer Not exactly the most innovative product categories?

philwelch 14y ago
Do you remember what phones were like six years ago?
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- sesqu 14y ago
  Yes; just like they are now, just with bigger batteries and smaller screens.
jfoutz 14y ago
Apple 2? Macintosh? Powerbook? Newton? Didn't that laser printer and the Apple software that became Adobe pretty much create "desktop publishing"? I've heard a few people talk about hypercard being neat at the time. Yeah, they did some stuff lately, whatever. But you really have no appreciation for how cool woz's disk drive was? That was pretty amazing.
- general_failure 14y ago
  Dude, that was Apple the company and not Steve jobs doing. What's wrong with everyone? Steve jobs didn't come up with every darn idea and implemente every darn thing. You know what John Chambers is awesome. He invented routers, switches, hubs, IP phones, Conferencing systems, Telco switches, things that power practically 50% of the internet all by himself.
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  - jfoutz 14y ago
    You know what, you're right. The newton was Gassée, and jobs probably did nothing with the laser printer. However, i think stuff like this: http://www.folklore.org/StoryView.py?project=Macintosh&story=Round_Rects_Are_Everywhere.txt http://www.folklore.org/StoryView.py?project=Macintosh&s... indicates Jobs pushed good people to do their best work. The mac wouldn't be the mac without jobs. Neither would the Next cube. Maybe John Chambers is just as involved with every product Cisco makes, but a terrible self promoter.
aik 14y ago
A horse [and buggy] and a car are in the same product category as well. Point: Everything can be generalized to the point of it seeming mundane.
hazov 14y ago
Execution and presentation matters, a lot, if Jobs left a lesson to the world that was it.
pycassa 14y ago
wow.

Forgive me if this is pointless cynicism but fountain of creative ideas? * A music player * A phone * A portable computer Not exactly the most innovative product categories?

philwelch 14y ago

Do you remember what phones were like six years ago?

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sesqu 14y ago
Yes; just like they are now, just with bigger batteries and smaller screens.

jfoutz 14y ago

Apple 2? Macintosh? Powerbook? Newton? Didn't that laser printer and the Apple software that became Adobe pretty much create "desktop publishing"? I've heard a few people talk about hypercard being neat at the time. Yeah, they did some stuff lately, whatever. But you really have no appreciation for how cool woz's disk drive was? That was pretty amazing.

general_failure 14y ago
Dude, that was Apple the company and not Steve jobs doing. What's wrong with everyone? Steve jobs didn't come up with every darn idea and implemente every darn thing. You know what John Chambers is awesome. He invented routers, switches, hubs, IP phones, Conferencing systems, Telco switches, things that power practically 50% of the internet all by himself.
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- jfoutz 14y ago
  You know what, you're right. The newton was Gassée, and jobs probably did nothing with the laser printer. However, i think stuff like this: http://www.folklore.org/StoryView.py?project=Macintosh&story=Round_Rects_Are_Everywhere.txt http://www.folklore.org/StoryView.py?project=Macintosh&s... indicates Jobs pushed good people to do their best work. The mac wouldn't be the mac without jobs. Neither would the Next cube. Maybe John Chambers is just as involved with every product Cisco makes, but a terrible self promoter.

aik 14y ago

A horse [and buggy] and a car are in the same product category as well. Point: Everything can be generalized to the point of it seeming mundane.

hazov 14y ago

Execution and presentation matters, a lot, if Jobs left a lesson to the world that was it.

pycassa 14y ago

wow.