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Look around, you're most definitely in a bubble. LLMs are bleeding edge by themselves. Using agentic anything is mega bleeding edge. Having something actually w

Look around, you're most definitely in a bubble. LLMs are bleeding edge by themselves. Using agentic anything is mega bleeding edge. Having something actually working reliably is a tiny sliver of the bleeding edge audience. We have barely entered early adoption phase. Most AI users out there are Q&A'ing it and they have no idea what agents, tool calling or context compaction are.

operatingthetan 6mo ago
I don't follow. Tech startups are bleeding edge. You may be over-generalizing here. I talk a lot of my dev friends, they are all using AI for work. So if Joe Blow at some consulting company is using it, then a SV startup CEO should be too. >Most AI users out there are Q&A'ing it and they have no idea what agents, tool calling or context compaction are. Again, talking about a tech CEO not a random "AI user."
- thekuanysh 6mo ago
  - Fair enough but tech CEOs aren't necessarily technical, developers or keep up-to-date with the tech on the daily like HN crowd. - The AI jump happened in Q3-Q4 2025 with Opus 4.5 so it's been six months or so? Not long enough. - Most developers out there use AI for their coding work, not for re-envisioning business models.
  - operatingthetan 6mo ago
    I know a 60-ish year old serial startup CEO who never coded. Now he's running teams of Claude Code agents which he used to build a healthcare platform by himself which he is now selling. He's already wealthy, just doing it for fun. This skill set is the bare minimum for a startup founder today. Going to VCs with a 2 year outdated deck with no AI functionality or plans or tool use is unimaginable.
    - thekuanysh 6mo ago
      Yeah I get what you're saying. Sounds like this guy is driven, smart and savvy then? Definitely a bleeding edge minority who goes where the puck is. As to my original point I'll go and say that 95/100 of business owners out there in the world don't have any idea about Claude Code, Codex or anything of that caliber. It's too early. By the time that group gets to it there'll be tools tailored to their needs, not a terminal-based coding agent messing up filesystem.
      - operatingthetan 6mo ago
        >95/100 of business owners out there in the world You keep returning to this which is a strawman of my argument. From the start I have been talking about technical startup founders, which is also the subject of the blog post.
        thekuanysh 6mo ago
        You on the other hand keep assuming that startup founders, even in SV are technical enough to envision AI or can change the thesis of their business on a whim of technology change that has been introduced less than a year ago. It's not realistic. Businesses have systems, people, obligations, legacy, etc.
        operatingthetan 6mo ago
        Did you read the blog post? It seems like you may be missing a lot of context here. I'm not assuming anything, that is my argument. I think you could do a better job countering it than pointing at the status quo of every business in the world. lol. Me: 'cutting edge startups should use cutting edge tools' You: 'every business in the world isn't using cutting edge tools!'
        thekuanysh 6mo ago
        It's not about the status quo. It's about the speed of change and focus. While I'm all in on building custom agentic loops and building extensions for my pi I have enough bandwidth and xp to see that it's quite easy for business people to be focused on the matters that are completely non-technical. That plus plain sunk cost fallacy and blind denial ofc.

operatingthetan 6mo ago

I don't follow. Tech startups are bleeding edge. You may be over-generalizing here. I talk a lot of my dev friends, they are all using AI for work. So if Joe Blow at some consulting company is using it, then a SV startup CEO should be too. >Most AI users out there are Q&A'ing it and they have no idea what agents, tool calling or context compaction are. Again, talking about a tech CEO not a random "AI user."

thekuanysh 6mo ago
- Fair enough but tech CEOs aren't necessarily technical, developers or keep up-to-date with the tech on the daily like HN crowd. - The AI jump happened in Q3-Q4 2025 with Opus 4.5 so it's been six months or so? Not long enough. - Most developers out there use AI for their coding work, not for re-envisioning business models.
- operatingthetan 6mo ago
  I know a 60-ish year old serial startup CEO who never coded. Now he's running teams of Claude Code agents which he used to build a healthcare platform by himself which he is now selling. He's already wealthy, just doing it for fun. This skill set is the bare minimum for a startup founder today. Going to VCs with a 2 year outdated deck with no AI functionality or plans or tool use is unimaginable.
  - thekuanysh 6mo ago
    Yeah I get what you're saying. Sounds like this guy is driven, smart and savvy then? Definitely a bleeding edge minority who goes where the puck is. As to my original point I'll go and say that 95/100 of business owners out there in the world don't have any idea about Claude Code, Codex or anything of that caliber. It's too early. By the time that group gets to it there'll be tools tailored to their needs, not a terminal-based coding agent messing up filesystem.
    - operatingthetan 6mo ago
      >95/100 of business owners out there in the world You keep returning to this which is a strawman of my argument. From the start I have been talking about technical startup founders, which is also the subject of the blog post.
      - thekuanysh 6mo ago
        You on the other hand keep assuming that startup founders, even in SV are technical enough to envision AI or can change the thesis of their business on a whim of technology change that has been introduced less than a year ago. It's not realistic. Businesses have systems, people, obligations, legacy, etc.
        operatingthetan 6mo ago
        Did you read the blog post? It seems like you may be missing a lot of context here. I'm not assuming anything, that is my argument. I think you could do a better job countering it than pointing at the status quo of every business in the world. lol. Me: 'cutting edge startups should use cutting edge tools' You: 'every business in the world isn't using cutting edge tools!'
        thekuanysh 6mo ago
        It's not about the status quo. It's about the speed of change and focus. While I'm all in on building custom agentic loops and building extensions for my pi I have enough bandwidth and xp to see that it's quite easy for business people to be focused on the matters that are completely non-technical. That plus plain sunk cost fallacy and blind denial ofc.