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"You cannot walk onto a cinema and shout fire". That's actually an interesting analogy you make given the context. The "theater/fire" metaphor was first used b
by dannyobrien 14y ago
"You cannot walk onto a cinema and shout fire". That's actually an interesting analogy you make given the context.
The "theater/fire" metaphor was first used by US Supreme Court Justice Holmes, to justify the imprisonment of anti-war protestors in World War I for distributing leaflets. It's exactly because such a broad justficiation can be so appealing and so easily misused that the US rejected that decision in favour of a far more narrow description of prohibited speech.
I realise that the UK can make a different stance on free speech, but it seems ironic to pluck as your standard the very language that was used in the United States to quash opposition to the war and mass deaths that the poppy is intended to commemorate.
- sambeau 14y agoUS Supreme Court Justice Holmes was using it as an analogy. I was not. I was using it as an example. US Supreme Court Justice Holmes was wrong. His analogy was bad one that was thankfully rejected. I may be wrong in this case about whether the freedom to insult people for no reason should be protected, I am still mulling it over, however I was not wrong and a free society is not wrong to sanction shouting "fire" in a crowded cinema.