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This is becoming a pretty clear wedge between red and blue. Why do you think Musk opened his diesel turbine driven data center in rural Mississippi? Big Tech is

This is becoming a pretty clear wedge between red and blue. Why do you think Musk opened his diesel turbine driven data center in rural Mississippi? Big Tech is systematically targeting small municipalities across the US with promises of insane money to anyone willing to sell out their residents. Missouri being traditionally purple, it makes a lot of sense the flashpoint would be here.

bigtex 6mo ago
Red states are against the deals as well. Many people in Texas are fighting back but sometimes it’s too late because the deal was done in secret.
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- wvenable 6mo ago
  It's crazy that these are done in secret. From the article: "The operator of the data center hasn't been identified" -- that's shouldn't be allowed.
  - stonogo 6mo ago
    It's not possible to identify operators who do not wish to be identified. The land is purchased by an LLC, developed by another LLC, and then sold to a third LLC for buildout. Once it's up and running it could be rented to a fourth LLC who has contracted with the actual client, or the client could just buy the involved LLCs (usually via another LLC).
- ramesh31 6mo ago
  >Red states are against the deals as well. The people are, their politicians are not. Overwhelmingly this is a problem of backroom deals with state and local Republicans subverting the electorate's will.
bdangubic 6mo ago
This is 100% not a political issue, red & blue are lining up against DCs. the DC capital of the world is Northern Virginia which is bluer than Bernie
- cestith 6mo ago
  Those are mostly more traditional data centers. 20 or 30 kilovolt racks with separate cages for different tenants, some meet-me rooms, and a bunch of telecom gear are the order of the day.
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  - bdangubic 6mo ago
    What exactly are you talking about?! :) https://www.datacentermap.com/content/nova/ https://www.datacentermap.com/content/nova/ 70% of global internet traffic flows through here
    - cestith 6mo ago
      Internet traffic requires routing and switching. That’s all traditional DC equipment in terms of power and cooling. They don’t require 80 or 100 kilovolt racks like something stuffed full of AI accelerators.
BitWiseVibe 6mo ago
NIMBYism comes in all colors
- sleepybrett 6mo ago
  Is it still 'NIMBYism' if what they are building is something that none of the residents want at all? Like yeah no-one wants the new sewage plant in their backyard but they will still see the value in it. Even as someone in tech I don't see the value in this scale of buildout. This technology is very new and no doubt in my mind that in 5 years we will be able to do everything these models do on a fraction of the resources.
caditinpiscinam 6mo ago
That data center is in the Memphis suburbs, 5 miles from the airport, in the third largest city in the state. Wouldn't call it rural

bigtex 6mo ago

Red states are against the deals as well. Many people in Texas are fighting back but sometimes it’s too late because the deal was done in secret.

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wvenable 6mo ago
It's crazy that these are done in secret. From the article: "The operator of the data center hasn't been identified" -- that's shouldn't be allowed.
- stonogo 6mo ago
  It's not possible to identify operators who do not wish to be identified. The land is purchased by an LLC, developed by another LLC, and then sold to a third LLC for buildout. Once it's up and running it could be rented to a fourth LLC who has contracted with the actual client, or the client could just buy the involved LLCs (usually via another LLC).
ramesh31 6mo ago
>Red states are against the deals as well. The people are, their politicians are not. Overwhelmingly this is a problem of backroom deals with state and local Republicans subverting the electorate's will.

bdangubic 6mo ago

This is 100% not a political issue, red & blue are lining up against DCs. the DC capital of the world is Northern Virginia which is bluer than Bernie

cestith 6mo ago
Those are mostly more traditional data centers. 20 or 30 kilovolt racks with separate cages for different tenants, some meet-me rooms, and a bunch of telecom gear are the order of the day.
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- bdangubic 6mo ago
  What exactly are you talking about?! :) https://www.datacentermap.com/content/nova/ https://www.datacentermap.com/content/nova/ 70% of global internet traffic flows through here
  - cestith 6mo ago
    Internet traffic requires routing and switching. That’s all traditional DC equipment in terms of power and cooling. They don’t require 80 or 100 kilovolt racks like something stuffed full of AI accelerators.

BitWiseVibe 6mo ago

NIMBYism comes in all colors

sleepybrett 6mo ago
Is it still 'NIMBYism' if what they are building is something that none of the residents want at all? Like yeah no-one wants the new sewage plant in their backyard but they will still see the value in it. Even as someone in tech I don't see the value in this scale of buildout. This technology is very new and no doubt in my mind that in 5 years we will be able to do everything these models do on a fraction of the resources.

caditinpiscinam 6mo ago

That data center is in the Memphis suburbs, 5 miles from the airport, in the third largest city in the state. Wouldn't call it rural