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You can't keep marginalizing people and expecting stability. Here's your canary.

andsoitis 6mo ago
> You can't keep marginalizing people and expecting stability. People who shoot someone or throw bombs at someone even though that someone never did something against them, should be marginalized. In prison.
- hackable_sand 6mo ago
  Okay
- s5300 6mo ago
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- c_o_n_v_e_x 6mo ago
  >People who shoot someone or throw bombs at someone even though that someone never did something against them I think the point is that there's going to be an increasingly large percentage of the populace who think that the AI bosses / billionaire class did indeed do something against them.
  - munksbeer 6mo ago
    This has always been the case, hasn't it? There have always been groups of people who perceive technology change as a negative, or they are in fact negatively impacted. But they didn't ask the rest of us if we're ok for them to murder someone on our behalf. Personally I hope that AI will be a step change for the positive. I think it is inevitable that it will progress form here, in the darwinian sense, that someone else on this thread mentioned. With that in mind, we should all be pushing for it to be used to our benefit, rather than detriment. And like almost all technological advances in the past, I think this can happen. So if people are saying violence against Sam Altman is expected, then they're also saying violence against me is expected, because I am hopeful and vaguely supportive of the technology. That's quite scary.
- trymas 6mo ago
  > <...> even though that someone never did something against them, <...> Many tech billionaires openly, publicly and loudly said something among the lines: "I/we/my company/tech-bros are building torment nexus - it will take your job and/or kill people and/or shut up political opponents. You are powerless to stop this." There are some of those billionaires willing to put their name and face in front of billions of people in the world. You will have no trouble finding people that will think that X or Y tech bro is personally responsible for some poor persons problems. Especially when there's a bunch of news like "layoffs due to AI", "record investments due to AI", etc. I am not supporting violence, never done it and never considered it. Though not surprising when talking heads of political/economical extremes can get threats from people that have nothing to lose.
- UncleMeat 6mo ago
  The last time we had a serious labor movement in the US, which made enormous progress towards dignity for workers, it involved guns and bombs.

> You can't keep marginalizing people and expecting stability. People who shoot someone or throw bombs at someone even though that someone never did something against them, should be marginalized. In prison.

hackable_sand 6mo ago
Okay
s5300 6mo ago
[dead]
c_o_n_v_e_x 6mo ago
>People who shoot someone or throw bombs at someone even though that someone never did something against them I think the point is that there's going to be an increasingly large percentage of the populace who think that the AI bosses / billionaire class did indeed do something against them.
- munksbeer 6mo ago
  This has always been the case, hasn't it? There have always been groups of people who perceive technology change as a negative, or they are in fact negatively impacted. But they didn't ask the rest of us if we're ok for them to murder someone on our behalf. Personally I hope that AI will be a step change for the positive. I think it is inevitable that it will progress form here, in the darwinian sense, that someone else on this thread mentioned. With that in mind, we should all be pushing for it to be used to our benefit, rather than detriment. And like almost all technological advances in the past, I think this can happen. So if people are saying violence against Sam Altman is expected, then they're also saying violence against me is expected, because I am hopeful and vaguely supportive of the technology. That's quite scary.
trymas 6mo ago
> <...> even though that someone never did something against them, <...> Many tech billionaires openly, publicly and loudly said something among the lines: "I/we/my company/tech-bros are building torment nexus - it will take your job and/or kill people and/or shut up political opponents. You are powerless to stop this." There are some of those billionaires willing to put their name and face in front of billions of people in the world. You will have no trouble finding people that will think that X or Y tech bro is personally responsible for some poor persons problems. Especially when there's a bunch of news like "layoffs due to AI", "record investments due to AI", etc. I am not supporting violence, never done it and never considered it. Though not surprising when talking heads of political/economical extremes can get threats from people that have nothing to lose.
UncleMeat 6mo ago
The last time we had a serious labor movement in the US, which made enormous progress towards dignity for workers, it involved guns and bombs.