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AI isn’t a hype anymore, average non technical people hate AI and would rather not to interact with, and tech companies started to realize that AI won’t be the

by tamimio 7mo ago

AI isn’t a hype anymore, average non technical people hate AI and would rather not to interact with, and tech companies started to realize that AI won’t be the solution for all of their issues, but they still used it as a scapegoat to lower wages regardless. I even noticed now companies are back to ~2022 time in hiring either FT or consultation, from my experience. So hopefully soon we will have dirt cheap prices for ram and other chips.

riffraff 7mo ago
I see more and more non-tech people using LLMs. I think none of them are paying for it beyond techies, but this is definitely not because they hate AI.
- grtteee 7mo ago
  They definitely won’t pay and I’m not sure there is a viable way to inject ads. The way google did it was very sneaky and pretty smart really. They increased the infiltration of ads slowly over time. How do you do this in a chat interface? It’s a bit too ‘in your face’ and less camouflaged. The moment they get hit with an ad they’ll just go to another model - the switching cost is zero.
  - schmookeeg 7mo ago
    I keep waiting for LLM chats to "steer" to a specific vendor's solution (in exchange for that vendor's substantial fee of course) -- so when I ask "is my UPS repairable?" i might get tips to fix, replace the battery (with $VENDOR's chinesium nonsense perhaps), or straight lied to and told the UPS is now e-waste, but consider $VENDOR's sale on UPS's right now over at this link. Perhaps an affiliate link? who knows! I pay for LLMs so I hope they don't leak that crassness into paying clientele -- but... how would I know if they did it subtly? I wouldn't! :/
    - grtteee 7mo ago
      An app that can run queries on all LLM’s at the same time and then figure out which answer is less like an advert might be the solution lol. A bit like ad block plus. Or using open source models.
  - satvikpendem 7mo ago
    Google Gemini already has ads, I see them all the time and they're usually Google Shopping affiliate links.
    - grtteee 7mo ago
      I’ve never seen them. Perhaps they’ve determined you’re not sensitive to ads (lol).
aduwah 7mo ago
In the meanwhile my big bad corp measures AI usage as a performance KPI
- deadbabe 7mo ago
  That’s easy to game. You just burn tokens.
  - Our_Benefactors 7mo ago
    This won’t be the metric measured for success. It will be something more tractable like tickets completed.
    - lmm 7mo ago
      Oh sweet summer child.
    - deadbabe 7mo ago
      Absolutely not. It will be token usage.
    - andrekandre 6mo ago
      > more tractable like tickets completed easy, just make tickets smaller in size (i see people doing this with prs already now to hit 'ai kpis')...
- shimman 7mo ago
  No one said corporations were smart or self preserving, they're just a money vein for the elites to suck on until they get swatted away.
YZF 7mo ago
> average non technical people hate AI and would rather not to interact with So nobody asks ChatGPT for recipes any more and they're all back to Google search? What is this claim based on? Pretty much everyone I know who is non-technical uses AI for a variety of things. From my limited viewpoint working for an S&P 500 tech company our uptake of AI is very much still on the increase. Every day we do more with AI than the previous day. We are still learning about where to use this but I think the consensus is that it can do a lot.
- tapoxi 7mo ago
  Recipes are a weird counterexample. Everyone I know Googles them because they're written up by chefs with specific styles and sometimes have user reviews. Asking ChatGPT will get you algorithmic food nonsense, it has no idea if those ingredients will combine or what the outcome will taste like.
  - bdangubic 7mo ago
    just this week my daughter has used claude twice to get a recipe for a cake (was great) and also suggestion on how to make variation of smoothies that fits her taste while my wife has asked claude for recipe for some orso chicken mushroom thing (was not that good). googling the same will also give AI answer too (chicken mushroom orso was similar, cake totally different)
    - locao 7mo ago
      At least once a week I ask Claude what to cook with the last ingredients from my last trip to the groceries. I'm still to be disappointed by the results, although every time one of the three or four of its suggestions seems completely off my taste.
- sdevonoes 7mo ago
  From my little circle of non tech folks, chatgpt is not used anymore. Don’t know what changed. It just faded. They haven’t heard of claude or openclaw either. But they rely on Google search AI for a lot of stuff
echelon 7mo ago
> average non technical people hate AI No they don't. It's somewhat polarizing, and quite a lot of non-tech people love it. > I even noticed now companies are back to ~2022 time in hiring either FT or consultation, from my experience. You think hiring has surpassed the layoffs? At what wages? Surely we'll never see the 2020-2022 highs again?
- paulddraper 7mo ago
  Tbf 2020-2022 were artificial, due to response to health crisis
rvz 7mo ago
> So hopefully soon we will have dirt cheap prices for ram and other chips. Oh sweet summer child.
unmole 7mo ago
> average non technical people hate AI This sounds like an alternate reality.

by tamimio 7mo ago

riffraff 7mo ago

I see more and more non-tech people using LLMs. I think none of them are paying for it beyond techies, but this is definitely not because they hate AI.

grtteee 7mo ago
They definitely won’t pay and I’m not sure there is a viable way to inject ads. The way google did it was very sneaky and pretty smart really. They increased the infiltration of ads slowly over time. How do you do this in a chat interface? It’s a bit too ‘in your face’ and less camouflaged. The moment they get hit with an ad they’ll just go to another model - the switching cost is zero.
- schmookeeg 7mo ago
  I keep waiting for LLM chats to "steer" to a specific vendor's solution (in exchange for that vendor's substantial fee of course) -- so when I ask "is my UPS repairable?" i might get tips to fix, replace the battery (with $VENDOR's chinesium nonsense perhaps), or straight lied to and told the UPS is now e-waste, but consider $VENDOR's sale on UPS's right now over at this link. Perhaps an affiliate link? who knows! I pay for LLMs so I hope they don't leak that crassness into paying clientele -- but... how would I know if they did it subtly? I wouldn't! :/
  - grtteee 7mo ago
    An app that can run queries on all LLM’s at the same time and then figure out which answer is less like an advert might be the solution lol. A bit like ad block plus. Or using open source models.
- satvikpendem 7mo ago
  Google Gemini already has ads, I see them all the time and they're usually Google Shopping affiliate links.
  - grtteee 7mo ago
    I’ve never seen them. Perhaps they’ve determined you’re not sensitive to ads (lol).

aduwah 7mo ago

In the meanwhile my big bad corp measures AI usage as a performance KPI

deadbabe 7mo ago
That’s easy to game. You just burn tokens.
- Our_Benefactors 7mo ago
  This won’t be the metric measured for success. It will be something more tractable like tickets completed.
  - lmm 7mo ago
    Oh sweet summer child.
  - deadbabe 7mo ago
    Absolutely not. It will be token usage.
  - andrekandre 6mo ago
    > more tractable like tickets completed easy, just make tickets smaller in size (i see people doing this with prs already now to hit 'ai kpis')...
shimman 7mo ago
No one said corporations were smart or self preserving, they're just a money vein for the elites to suck on until they get swatted away.

YZF 7mo ago

> average non technical people hate AI and would rather not to interact with So nobody asks ChatGPT for recipes any more and they're all back to Google search? What is this claim based on? Pretty much everyone I know who is non-technical uses AI for a variety of things. From my limited viewpoint working for an S&P 500 tech company our uptake of AI is very much still on the increase. Every day we do more with AI than the previous day. We are still learning about where to use this but I think the consensus is that it can do a lot.

tapoxi 7mo ago
Recipes are a weird counterexample. Everyone I know Googles them because they're written up by chefs with specific styles and sometimes have user reviews. Asking ChatGPT will get you algorithmic food nonsense, it has no idea if those ingredients will combine or what the outcome will taste like.
- bdangubic 7mo ago
  just this week my daughter has used claude twice to get a recipe for a cake (was great) and also suggestion on how to make variation of smoothies that fits her taste while my wife has asked claude for recipe for some orso chicken mushroom thing (was not that good). googling the same will also give AI answer too (chicken mushroom orso was similar, cake totally different)
  - locao 7mo ago
    At least once a week I ask Claude what to cook with the last ingredients from my last trip to the groceries. I'm still to be disappointed by the results, although every time one of the three or four of its suggestions seems completely off my taste.
sdevonoes 7mo ago
From my little circle of non tech folks, chatgpt is not used anymore. Don’t know what changed. It just faded. They haven’t heard of claude or openclaw either. But they rely on Google search AI for a lot of stuff

echelon 7mo ago

> average non technical people hate AI No they don't. It's somewhat polarizing, and quite a lot of non-tech people love it. > I even noticed now companies are back to ~2022 time in hiring either FT or consultation, from my experience. You think hiring has surpassed the layoffs? At what wages? Surely we'll never see the 2020-2022 highs again?

paulddraper 7mo ago
Tbf 2020-2022 were artificial, due to response to health crisis

rvz 7mo ago

> So hopefully soon we will have dirt cheap prices for ram and other chips. Oh sweet summer child.

unmole 7mo ago

> average non technical people hate AI This sounds like an alternate reality.