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The US is shooting down its citizens, blockading vital commerce routes, and accumulating a dangerous amount of nuclear weapons. It seems ripe for regime change.

ericmay 6mo ago
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- nullocator 6mo ago
  > Iran has murdered over 30,000 of its own citizens for peacefully protesting. The US has not done that, nor have we "shot down" our citizens. The US has incarcerated ~1.2 million people. Just the year, agents of the U.S. government executed two citizens in broad daylight caught by dozens of cameras, it was national news in both cases. You say Tomato I say Tomato.
  - ericmay 6mo ago
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    - 1659447091 6mo ago
      > Yea, 2 people killed in highly volatile situations Don't forget the other ICE shootings and killings like the citizen in Texas that they killed and covered up for more than a year and when it was finally exposed...nothing. And the other shootings where people didnt die. Of course it was never the ice agent at fault, everyone tryin' run'em over all a sudden -- until video shows agents use the dumbest excuses to shoot people. > Iran’s government literally ordered soldiers with machine guns to fire indiscriminately toward protestors That's not great, but are you really trying to lower the standard we have for the US to Iran levels of terrible? The US needs to stay out of other peoples business and focus on the US. America first, no foreign wars -- isn't that what was promised. We destroy our institutions and infrastructure investments that actually worked for the people here to re-allocate a couple billion dollars into corporate tax cuts cause "my tax dollars", then multiply that "savings" into spend by fighting Israel's war for them. This isn't the US bailing "out the rest of the world" here. This is the US bailing out ourselves from our own mess.
      - megamike 6mo ago
        The US is wasting time and resources in overseas conflicts, National security should be built on domestic strength, specifically by securing our power grid and reducing global oil dependence. We have the technology, tools, solar, wind, advanced battery storage, nuclear power and electric vehicles to make this happen. We have the wrong people in place to make this happen.
        ericmay 6mo ago
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    - pseudohadamard 6mo ago
      So what? We have a lot of crazy people that live here. You certainly do. What I don't understand is why you keep voting for them.
      - ericmay 6mo ago
        When was the last free Iranian election? Or did they vote their crazy people into office too? :)
- ks1723 6mo ago
  > Unfortunately, the United States yet again has to bail out the rest of the world. You mean like the one last time where they fought the war on terrorism in Afghanistan for the rest of the world and where it took them 20 years to replace the Taliban with … ehm … the Taliban?
  - ericmay 6mo ago
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    - cheney_2004 6mo ago
      168 little children in Minab Iran are waiting for you to go upto bat and speak for their justice...
      - ericmay 6mo ago
        30,000+ Iranian civilians (probably some children too) murdered by the Iranian regime - we can speak to their justice first when the IRGC and their cronies answer for their malicious and violent crimes against the world. Unlike the Iranian regime we don’t intentionally kill or murder people. How do you know? Because they take their own people and at the point of a gun force them to stand around on bridges and stuff because even the Iranian regime knows that we don’t kill civilians. Something that, for some reason seems to be solely lost on you.
        mmustapic 6mo ago
        Several cruise missiles where fired at the school specifically. And anyways, “we didn’t really want to bomb the school” is a sorry excuse.
        ericmay 6mo ago
        Iran fired 2,500 ballistic missiles at the United Arab Emirates alone, intentionally targeting civilians. We could pose it as a simple question and examine what the answers would be: Do western powers bomb civilians intentionally? US -> No Israel -> No Other westerner powers -> No Iran -> No Hamas/Hezbollah/Other terrorist murders -> No You -> Yes It's a strange thing when you aren't even on the same page as your Iranian friends. And intent matters. I for one support a form of reparations paid to the families of those who we mistakenly killed. Will Iran pay such reparations for those they've murdered inside and outside of Iran? Of course not. There's a difference - we're morally superior.
- shaky-carrousel 6mo ago
  > Iran has murdered over 30,000 of its own citizens for peacefully protesting. The US has not done that, nor have we "shot down" our citizens. Yet the US has been an accomplice to that, by intentionally destabilizing the country and then arming its population. And then murdering children. > Yes, this is in response to the Iranian regime's attempts to hold global trade hostage for their own benefit and enrichment - i.e. if you pay the regime ransom money you can purchase oil, but that is not acceptable so we will not allow it. Unfortunately, the United States yet again has to bail out the rest of the world. "You" won't allow it? You were the ones who started a war with a country for your own nefarious interests, then destabilized world commerce, then asked the rest of the world to fix your own fuckup, and you have the gall of "not allowing" something? You should go sit in a corner and stop putting all of us in distress. Regarding "bailing out," trying to fix your fuckups by throwing even more fuel on the fire is not bailing out. > Nuclear weapons are dangerous, for sure. That's why Iran can't be allowed to posses one. And that's why a trigger-happy, deranged nation shouldn't be allowed to possess them either. > Usually every four years we select a new President. Every 2 years we hold elections and usually we select new Senators or members of the House of Representatives. Iranians, unfortunately, just live under a brutal military dictatorship without the possibility of regime change despite their ever-increasing desire and need. Your "elections" are a mockery where an entire nation is funneled into choosing between two parties that agree on everything that matters. You are given the choice between Dumb and Dumber.
  - ericmay 6mo ago
    > Yet the US has been an accomplice to that, by intentionally destabilizing the country and then arming its population. And then murdering children. So we've reached the point where the Iranian government giving an order to IRGC troops to pick up machine guns, aim them at peaceful protestors, and then fire and kill over 30,000 people is the US's fault? Thanks, Obama, I guess?

ericmay 6mo ago

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nullocator 6mo ago
> Iran has murdered over 30,000 of its own citizens for peacefully protesting. The US has not done that, nor have we "shot down" our citizens. The US has incarcerated ~1.2 million people. Just the year, agents of the U.S. government executed two citizens in broad daylight caught by dozens of cameras, it was national news in both cases. You say Tomato I say Tomato.
- ericmay 6mo ago
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  - 1659447091 6mo ago
    > Yea, 2 people killed in highly volatile situations Don't forget the other ICE shootings and killings like the citizen in Texas that they killed and covered up for more than a year and when it was finally exposed...nothing. And the other shootings where people didnt die. Of course it was never the ice agent at fault, everyone tryin' run'em over all a sudden -- until video shows agents use the dumbest excuses to shoot people. > Iran’s government literally ordered soldiers with machine guns to fire indiscriminately toward protestors That's not great, but are you really trying to lower the standard we have for the US to Iran levels of terrible? The US needs to stay out of other peoples business and focus on the US. America first, no foreign wars -- isn't that what was promised. We destroy our institutions and infrastructure investments that actually worked for the people here to re-allocate a couple billion dollars into corporate tax cuts cause "my tax dollars", then multiply that "savings" into spend by fighting Israel's war for them. This isn't the US bailing "out the rest of the world" here. This is the US bailing out ourselves from our own mess.
    - megamike 6mo ago
      The US is wasting time and resources in overseas conflicts, National security should be built on domestic strength, specifically by securing our power grid and reducing global oil dependence. We have the technology, tools, solar, wind, advanced battery storage, nuclear power and electric vehicles to make this happen. We have the wrong people in place to make this happen.
      - ericmay 6mo ago
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  - pseudohadamard 6mo ago
    So what? We have a lot of crazy people that live here. You certainly do. What I don't understand is why you keep voting for them.
    - ericmay 6mo ago
      When was the last free Iranian election? Or did they vote their crazy people into office too? :)
ks1723 6mo ago
> Unfortunately, the United States yet again has to bail out the rest of the world. You mean like the one last time where they fought the war on terrorism in Afghanistan for the rest of the world and where it took them 20 years to replace the Taliban with … ehm … the Taliban?
- ericmay 6mo ago
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  - cheney_2004 6mo ago
    168 little children in Minab Iran are waiting for you to go upto bat and speak for their justice...
    - ericmay 6mo ago
      30,000+ Iranian civilians (probably some children too) murdered by the Iranian regime - we can speak to their justice first when the IRGC and their cronies answer for their malicious and violent crimes against the world. Unlike the Iranian regime we don’t intentionally kill or murder people. How do you know? Because they take their own people and at the point of a gun force them to stand around on bridges and stuff because even the Iranian regime knows that we don’t kill civilians. Something that, for some reason seems to be solely lost on you.
      - mmustapic 6mo ago
        Several cruise missiles where fired at the school specifically. And anyways, “we didn’t really want to bomb the school” is a sorry excuse.
        ericmay 6mo ago
        Iran fired 2,500 ballistic missiles at the United Arab Emirates alone, intentionally targeting civilians. We could pose it as a simple question and examine what the answers would be: Do western powers bomb civilians intentionally? US -> No Israel -> No Other westerner powers -> No Iran -> No Hamas/Hezbollah/Other terrorist murders -> No You -> Yes It's a strange thing when you aren't even on the same page as your Iranian friends. And intent matters. I for one support a form of reparations paid to the families of those who we mistakenly killed. Will Iran pay such reparations for those they've murdered inside and outside of Iran? Of course not. There's a difference - we're morally superior.
shaky-carrousel 6mo ago
> Iran has murdered over 30,000 of its own citizens for peacefully protesting. The US has not done that, nor have we "shot down" our citizens. Yet the US has been an accomplice to that, by intentionally destabilizing the country and then arming its population. And then murdering children. > Yes, this is in response to the Iranian regime's attempts to hold global trade hostage for their own benefit and enrichment - i.e. if you pay the regime ransom money you can purchase oil, but that is not acceptable so we will not allow it. Unfortunately, the United States yet again has to bail out the rest of the world. "You" won't allow it? You were the ones who started a war with a country for your own nefarious interests, then destabilized world commerce, then asked the rest of the world to fix your own fuckup, and you have the gall of "not allowing" something? You should go sit in a corner and stop putting all of us in distress. Regarding "bailing out," trying to fix your fuckups by throwing even more fuel on the fire is not bailing out. > Nuclear weapons are dangerous, for sure. That's why Iran can't be allowed to posses one. And that's why a trigger-happy, deranged nation shouldn't be allowed to possess them either. > Usually every four years we select a new President. Every 2 years we hold elections and usually we select new Senators or members of the House of Representatives. Iranians, unfortunately, just live under a brutal military dictatorship without the possibility of regime change despite their ever-increasing desire and need. Your "elections" are a mockery where an entire nation is funneled into choosing between two parties that agree on everything that matters. You are given the choice between Dumb and Dumber.
- ericmay 6mo ago
  > Yet the US has been an accomplice to that, by intentionally destabilizing the country and then arming its population. And then murdering children. So we've reached the point where the Iranian government giving an order to IRGC troops to pick up machine guns, aim them at peaceful protestors, and then fire and kill over 30,000 people is the US's fault? Thanks, Obama, I guess?