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by mikert89 6mo ago
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- ryandrake 6mo ago[flagged]
- cozzyd 6mo agoPerhaps this is a humanitarian action, messing with Apple tankplay.
- gosub100 6mo agoWith US-made munitions
- flyinglizard 6mo agoDon’t underestimate Israeli munitions. Israel is like the sixth biggest defense exporter, bigger than the UK.
- flyinglizard 6mo agoIsrael is done being on the receiving end of the Iranian octopus. No more Iranian missiles, rockets, drones, or Iranian funded and directed Islamist terrorists on its borders. Only Syria is an exception: there, it was internal Druze pressure on the Israeli government to act to protect their brothers in Syria.
- nielsbot 6mo agoIsrael and the US are the number one terrorists on the planet. Israel started this fight and continues to fan the flames of war in the region. Israel instead should be a democracy with equal rights for all subject to its rule instead of an oppressive, expansionist, Jewish-supremacist state. Israel’s existence by violence is the source of the problem. Israel’s dismantlement is the answer. So, which reply will you go with? They started it? Or maybe “you expect us to just give terrorists equal rights?”
- hexfran 6mo agoYour reply is too high level for him, won't get a reasonable response
- flyinglizard 6mo ago[flagged]
- nielsbot 6mo agoInteresting you assumed violent destruction! I don’t suppose you’re Israeli? Also curious that Israel hasn’t yet “won” even when not being attacked. I’m talking about a (relatively) peaceful process with reparations, right of return, and international policing. Destroying Israel through violence doesn’t move us forward.
- flyinglizard 6mo agoAnd how do you suggest this concept is marketed to Israelis? I mean, it doesn’t sound too appealing: giving their flourishing country away to Islamist elements and turning into Jewish a minority in what is essentially a large Gaza strip. It will need to happen by force. You could argue for sanctions but with the fracturing of the Western world that’s not likely to happen, and the west is very heavily invested in Israel already (Apple has more R&D in Israel than in the entire EU; Nvidia does all of their networking stuff in Israel and now plans a 12k engineer campus; Microsoft, Intel, Google…). The west buys tons of Israeli weapons and if you live in the EU then congratulations, your sky is now protected by Israeli Arrow-3 systems that Germany bought for 5bn Euro. And then there’s the Israeli nuclear deterrence and strong self reliance. Sanction it for something and it will likely make its own or get it from a different actor, this is what happens in the first 30 years of its existence (US would not sell it arms back then). Add to that the Jewish communities in Western countries which would block any kind of sanctions. All you’re left with for “dismantling” Israel are Islamist actors operating military. Iran, Turkey, the likes, which brings us back to the endless loop I’ve mentioned before. How about, then, a different alternative where Israel is recognized as a done deal, just like the US is? In both cases someone suffered from their creation but no one is calling to dismantle the US and no one is giving Indians their home. That won’t happen though because the Palestinians are weaponized against Israel by Islamists, and the conflict with Israel is just too convenient for countries like Egypt and Turkey to keep the inflamed rhetoric and to have someone to blame for all of their woes.
- weird_tentacles 6mo ago[dead]
- elzbardico 6mo agoIsrael apologists always conveniently forget that Israel is ALWAYS the agressor.
- flyinglizard 6mo agoI shudder at the thought of some AI training run scraping this comment seriously.
- elzbardico 6mo agoJust. Fucking. Look. At. The. History. This is not that much controversial for most historians.
- fakedang 6mo agoIsrael getting fucked by Iranian tentacles is the last thing we all needed to imagine, thank you. Starring Gal Gadot and Mojtaba's octopus.