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In Slack it can get even worse. If you turn on Markdown formatting, shift+enter adds a new line, unless you’re in a multi-line code block started with three ba

In Slack it can get even worse. If you turn on Markdown formatting, shift+enter adds a new line, unless you’re in a multi-line code block started with three backticks, and then enter adds a new line and shift+enter sends the message. I can see why someone thought this was a good idea, but it’s just not.

jwolfe 6mo ago
This is a user preferences setting for what it's worth.
least 6mo ago
It’s kind of modal editing. Your 99% is enter to send because it’s a chat program. You’re sending mostly quick messages where adding a chorded input to send is just adding extra work to that mode. When you enter a code block, that assumption changes. You are now in a “long text” mode where the assumptions are shifted where you are more likely want to insert a new line than to send the message. I think people that have used tables or a spreadsheet and a text editor kind of understand modal editing and why we shift behaviors depending on the context. Pressing tab in a table or spreadsheet will navigate cells instead of inserting a tab character. Pressing arrow keys may navigate cells instead of characters in the cell. Pressing enter will navigate to the cell below, not the first column of the next row. It’s optimized for its primary use case. I think if the mode change was more explicit it’d maybe be a better experience. Right now it is largely guessing what behavior someone wants based off the context of their message but if that mismatches the users expectations it’s always going to feel clumsy. A toggle or indicator with a keyboard shortcut. Can stick the advanced options inside the settings somewhere if a power user wants to tinker.
- skydhash 6mo ago
  > I think people that have used tables or a spreadsheet and a text editor kind of understand modal editing and why we shift behaviors depending on the context. I don't have a spreadsheet software nearby, but I remember the cell is highlighted different if you're in insert mode or navigation mode. Just like the status line in Vim let's you know which mode you're in.
hamasho 6mo ago
The worst part is if I paste markdown it's not formatted automatically.
- Bjartr 6mo ago
  Ctrl-shift-f to apply formatting to literal markdown that's been entered via pasting
croemer 6mo ago
When you're in a multi code block it should simply never send on (shift+)enter then. Close the code block first.
Bjartr 6mo ago
There's a setting to toggle this behavior

jwolfe 6mo ago

This is a user preferences setting for what it's worth.

least 6mo ago

It’s kind of modal editing. Your 99% is enter to send because it’s a chat program. You’re sending mostly quick messages where adding a chorded input to send is just adding extra work to that mode. When you enter a code block, that assumption changes. You are now in a “long text” mode where the assumptions are shifted where you are more likely want to insert a new line than to send the message. I think people that have used tables or a spreadsheet and a text editor kind of understand modal editing and why we shift behaviors depending on the context. Pressing tab in a table or spreadsheet will navigate cells instead of inserting a tab character. Pressing arrow keys may navigate cells instead of characters in the cell. Pressing enter will navigate to the cell below, not the first column of the next row. It’s optimized for its primary use case. I think if the mode change was more explicit it’d maybe be a better experience. Right now it is largely guessing what behavior someone wants based off the context of their message but if that mismatches the users expectations it’s always going to feel clumsy. A toggle or indicator with a keyboard shortcut. Can stick the advanced options inside the settings somewhere if a power user wants to tinker.

skydhash 6mo ago
> I think people that have used tables or a spreadsheet and a text editor kind of understand modal editing and why we shift behaviors depending on the context. I don't have a spreadsheet software nearby, but I remember the cell is highlighted different if you're in insert mode or navigation mode. Just like the status line in Vim let's you know which mode you're in.

hamasho 6mo ago

The worst part is if I paste markdown it's not formatted automatically.

Bjartr 6mo ago
Ctrl-shift-f to apply formatting to literal markdown that's been entered via pasting

croemer 6mo ago

When you're in a multi code block it should simply never send on (shift+)enter then. Close the code block first.

Bjartr 6mo ago

There's a setting to toggle this behavior