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"I mean, the United States practically murdered an entire continent of civilizations and cultures" You realize that this is largely propaganda and doesn't hone

"I mean, the United States practically murdered an entire continent of civilizations and cultures" You realize that this is largely propaganda and doesn't honestly or accurately describe the actual history right? If a history teacher taught you this, you deserve to get a refund. The actual history is a lot more complex, subtle, nuanced, and driven by biology and trade more than warfare. Most of the deaths were caused by disease and trade drove the warfare in most cases. Also, the warfare was rarely strictly along ethic lines but it was at times. Perhaps you are thinking of the Spanish or something...

acdha 7mo ago
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krapp 7mo ago
Look up Andrew Jackson and the Indian Removal Act[0], manifest destiny[1] and the American Indian Wars[2]. The Trail of Tears[3]. Here's a whole Wikipedia list for massacres of native Americans[4]. Here's one for native American genocide[5]. The United States had a policy of extermination towards native peoples. Read about the history of boarding schools for native Americans[6]. This isn't propaganda, it's fact. The narrative you're trying to present here, where the relationship between settlers and natives was mostly peaceful and amicable, is whitewashing history. Sometimes it was, but presenting the exceptions as if they were the rule is deceptive. It's the same kind of gross distortion that led to the "happy slave" narrative, that American slaves for the most part enjoyed slavery because some of them got to live in houses and had families and apparently amicable relationships with their masters. And there were plenty of Nazis who had Jewish friends - Hitler's personal chauffeur was Jewish. But the Holocaust still happened. Most natives didn't give up their lands willingly, nor did they volunteer for the reservations or boarding schools (which were themselves part of a system of forced cultural assimilation and genocide[7]) because they agreed that the white man's God had granted their lands to them. And even if it is true that disease killed many (sometimes intentionally, as with the case of smallpox blankets) the remainder were still victims of genocide. [0]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indian_Removal_Act https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indian_Removal_Act [1]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manifest_destiny https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manifest_destiny [2]https://www.history.com/articles/native-americans-genocide-united-states https://www.history.com/articles/native-americans-genocide-u... [3]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trail_of_Tears https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trail_of_Tears [4]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Massacres_of_Native_Americans https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Massacres_of_Native_A... [5]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Native_American_genocide_in_the_United_States https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Native_American_genoc... [6]https://www.nationalgeographic.com/history/article/a-century-of-trauma-at-boarding-schools-for-native-american-children-in-the-united-states https://www.nationalgeographic.com/history/article/a-century... [7]https://eji.org/news/history-racial-injustice-cultural-genocide/ https://eji.org/news/history-racial-injustice-cultural-genoc...
- hunterpayne 7mo ago
  You are doing exactly what you are accusing me of. That is, cherrypicking to support a narrative. Maybe you should learn the entire history of the Seminole instead of just one event. Perhaps you would learn that they were paid by European monarchies to attack settlers in an entirely different country, about 500 miles from their lands. You might also learn that after the Trail of Tears, they moved back to Florida when the reservation system was dismantled (a bit before WWI). You would also learn that they built casinos and are one of the wealthiest groups in the US today. Your narrative comes from communist propaganda and in no way describes the majority of their history. You seek to turn them into children with no agency. PS Those European countries who paid the Seminole to attack the US, they tried the same thing with about 6 other tribes, all of whom turned them down. PPS The only event that meets the dictionary definition of a genocide in North America was natives killing natives, so that one tribe could control fur trading around the great lakes region and not have to share with other tribes. PPPS 90% of natives died due to disease, not warfare. Nothing Europeans could do after setting foot in the New World could have prevented that without modern medicine.

acdha 7mo ago

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krapp 7mo ago

Look up Andrew Jackson and the Indian Removal Act[0], manifest destiny[1] and the American Indian Wars[2]. The Trail of Tears[3]. Here's a whole Wikipedia list for massacres of native Americans[4]. Here's one for native American genocide[5]. The United States had a policy of extermination towards native peoples. Read about the history of boarding schools for native Americans[6]. This isn't propaganda, it's fact. The narrative you're trying to present here, where the relationship between settlers and natives was mostly peaceful and amicable, is whitewashing history. Sometimes it was, but presenting the exceptions as if they were the rule is deceptive. It's the same kind of gross distortion that led to the "happy slave" narrative, that American slaves for the most part enjoyed slavery because some of them got to live in houses and had families and apparently amicable relationships with their masters. And there were plenty of Nazis who had Jewish friends - Hitler's personal chauffeur was Jewish. But the Holocaust still happened. Most natives didn't give up their lands willingly, nor did they volunteer for the reservations or boarding schools (which were themselves part of a system of forced cultural assimilation and genocide[7]) because they agreed that the white man's God had granted their lands to them. And even if it is true that disease killed many (sometimes intentionally, as with the case of smallpox blankets) the remainder were still victims of genocide. [0]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indian_Removal_Act https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indian_Removal_Act [1]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manifest_destiny https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manifest_destiny [2]https://www.history.com/articles/native-americans-genocide-united-states https://www.history.com/articles/native-americans-genocide-u... [3]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trail_of_Tears https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trail_of_Tears [4]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Massacres_of_Native_Americans https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Massacres_of_Native_A... [5]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Native_American_genocide_in_the_United_States https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Native_American_genoc... [6]https://www.nationalgeographic.com/history/article/a-century-of-trauma-at-boarding-schools-for-native-american-children-in-the-united-states https://www.nationalgeographic.com/history/article/a-century... [7]https://eji.org/news/history-racial-injustice-cultural-genocide/ https://eji.org/news/history-racial-injustice-cultural-genoc...

hunterpayne 7mo ago
You are doing exactly what you are accusing me of. That is, cherrypicking to support a narrative. Maybe you should learn the entire history of the Seminole instead of just one event. Perhaps you would learn that they were paid by European monarchies to attack settlers in an entirely different country, about 500 miles from their lands. You might also learn that after the Trail of Tears, they moved back to Florida when the reservation system was dismantled (a bit before WWI). You would also learn that they built casinos and are one of the wealthiest groups in the US today. Your narrative comes from communist propaganda and in no way describes the majority of their history. You seek to turn them into children with no agency. PS Those European countries who paid the Seminole to attack the US, they tried the same thing with about 6 other tribes, all of whom turned them down. PPS The only event that meets the dictionary definition of a genocide in North America was natives killing natives, so that one tribe could control fur trading around the great lakes region and not have to share with other tribes. PPPS 90% of natives died due to disease, not warfare. Nothing Europeans could do after setting foot in the New World could have prevented that without modern medicine.