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Hilariously (to me, anyway) — I genuinely don’t know which party you’re talking about. It could truly be either, depending entirely on which party you support.

LocalH 6mo ago
Waiting for the day when both the Democrats and Republicans are so very obviously shitty to even the most uninformed voter that we get some new thought in office instead of two sides of the same coin that are both beholden to capital and to foreign interests
- Onawa 6mo ago
  As long as our voting system is "first past the post", it will be nigh impossible for a third party to make any significant headway. IMO Citizens United and first past the post are the two main issues holding the US back from any kind of significant overhaul or change.
  - wredcoll 6mo ago
    First past the post doesn't meaningfull affect primaries and that's where major change could happen. Hell, that's what trump did. He was a third outside party and won the republican primary. Bernie sanders came fairly close to doing the same thing.
    - LocalH 6mo ago
      > He was a third outside party and won the republican primary. That's not "third party" quite like you think it is
  - RunningDroid 6mo ago
    There's been some progress on killing Citizens United: https://transparentelection.org/ https://transparentelection.org/ https://corpgov.law.harvard.edu/2025/08/07/transparent-election-initiative/ https://corpgov.law.harvard.edu/2025/08/07/transparent-elect...
wredcoll 6mo ago
That's sort of like saying you're not sure if the earth is round or not-- says much more about you and your understanding than anything else.
- frumplestlatz 6mo ago
  The patronizing tone and use of totalizing moral claims gives me a much stronger hint of which side of this you're on.
  - wredcoll 6mo ago
    Yeah, the moral one. The one that wants a good life for all people. Or did you think there was some kind of third side?
    - frumplestlatz 6mo ago
      Nearly everyone believes their side is the moral one. Only one side currently refuses to admit the other side might not actually be evil, just foolish.

LocalH 6mo ago

Waiting for the day when both the Democrats and Republicans are so very obviously shitty to even the most uninformed voter that we get some new thought in office instead of two sides of the same coin that are both beholden to capital and to foreign interests

Onawa 6mo ago
As long as our voting system is "first past the post", it will be nigh impossible for a third party to make any significant headway. IMO Citizens United and first past the post are the two main issues holding the US back from any kind of significant overhaul or change.
- wredcoll 6mo ago
  First past the post doesn't meaningfull affect primaries and that's where major change could happen. Hell, that's what trump did. He was a third outside party and won the republican primary. Bernie sanders came fairly close to doing the same thing.
  - LocalH 6mo ago
    > He was a third outside party and won the republican primary. That's not "third party" quite like you think it is
- RunningDroid 6mo ago
  There's been some progress on killing Citizens United: https://transparentelection.org/ https://transparentelection.org/ https://corpgov.law.harvard.edu/2025/08/07/transparent-election-initiative/ https://corpgov.law.harvard.edu/2025/08/07/transparent-elect...

wredcoll 6mo ago

That's sort of like saying you're not sure if the earth is round or not-- says much more about you and your understanding than anything else.

frumplestlatz 6mo ago
The patronizing tone and use of totalizing moral claims gives me a much stronger hint of which side of this you're on.
- wredcoll 6mo ago
  Yeah, the moral one. The one that wants a good life for all people. Or did you think there was some kind of third side?
  - frumplestlatz 6mo ago
    Nearly everyone believes their side is the moral one. Only one side currently refuses to admit the other side might not actually be evil, just foolish.