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Also, what is $20,000 today can be $2000 next year. Or $20... See e.g. https://epoch.ai/data-insights/llm-inference-price-trends/ https://epoch.ai/data-insight

by mnicky 6mo ago

Also, what is $20,000 today can be $2000 next year. Or $20... See e.g. https://epoch.ai/data-insights/llm-inference-price-trends/ https://epoch.ai/data-insights/llm-inference-price-trends/

sumeno 6mo ago
Or $200,000 for consumers when they have to make a profit
- philipallstar 6mo ago
  Good point. This is why consumer phones have got much worse since 2005 and now cost millions of dollars.
  - ijk 6mo ago
    With the way the chip shortage the way it is, I'm a little concerned that my next phone will be worse and more expensive...
  - thmoonbus 6mo ago
    Now do uber rides
  - xmprt 6mo ago
    Yeah and to give a more recent example, it's exactly like how RAM, storage, and other computer parts have gotten much cheaper over the last 3 years... oh wait.
  - pseudohadamard 6mo ago
    With consumer phones you're not telling your customers "spend $200,000 with us to try and find holes before the bad guys do it". Commercial SAST tools have been around for 20 years and the pricing hasn't moved in all that time. With AI tools you've got a combination of the perfect hostage situation, pay for our stuff before others will find bad things about your product, and a desperate need to create the illusion of some sort of revenue stream, so I doubt prices will be dropping any time soon.
  - adrian_b 6mo ago
    If I want to buy today a smartphone that is positioned on the market at the same level as what I was buying for around $500 seven-eight years ago, now I have to spend well over $1000, a price increase between 2 and 3 times. So your example is not well chosen. Price increases have affected during the last decade many computing and electronics devices, though for most of them the price increases have been less than for smartphones.
    - snovv_crash 6mo ago
      If you want the level of storage, screen resolution and camera quality as a $500 phone from 8 years ago, you can get that for $250 today. Of course their marketing team tries to convince you to spend more money. That doesn't mean you have to.

by mnicky 6mo ago

Also, what is $20,000 today can be $2000 next year. Or $20... See e.g. https://epoch.ai/data-insights/llm-inference-price-trends/ https://epoch.ai/data-insights/llm-inference-price-trends/

sumeno 6mo ago

Or $200,000 for consumers when they have to make a profit

philipallstar 6mo ago
Good point. This is why consumer phones have got much worse since 2005 and now cost millions of dollars.
- ijk 6mo ago
  With the way the chip shortage the way it is, I'm a little concerned that my next phone will be worse and more expensive...
- thmoonbus 6mo ago
  Now do uber rides
- xmprt 6mo ago
  Yeah and to give a more recent example, it's exactly like how RAM, storage, and other computer parts have gotten much cheaper over the last 3 years... oh wait.
- pseudohadamard 6mo ago
  With consumer phones you're not telling your customers "spend $200,000 with us to try and find holes before the bad guys do it". Commercial SAST tools have been around for 20 years and the pricing hasn't moved in all that time. With AI tools you've got a combination of the perfect hostage situation, pay for our stuff before others will find bad things about your product, and a desperate need to create the illusion of some sort of revenue stream, so I doubt prices will be dropping any time soon.
- adrian_b 6mo ago
  If I want to buy today a smartphone that is positioned on the market at the same level as what I was buying for around $500 seven-eight years ago, now I have to spend well over $1000, a price increase between 2 and 3 times. So your example is not well chosen. Price increases have affected during the last decade many computing and electronics devices, though for most of them the price increases have been less than for smartphones.
  - snovv_crash 6mo ago
    If you want the level of storage, screen resolution and camera quality as a $500 phone from 8 years ago, you can get that for $250 today. Of course their marketing team tries to convince you to spend more money. That doesn't mean you have to.