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The bombed schoolgirls were "private individuals" in any reasonable meaning of "private individual".

by deaux 7mo ago

seizethecheese 7mo ago
Maybe I shouldn’t take the bait here… Yes, military power is evil, but it’s a necessary evil. A society that decides to stop making weapons is going to be subjugated by one that continues to make them. Full stop.
- deaux 7mo ago
  Nothing about the US Department of War's actions over the last 2 years, whose contracts Sam eagerly pursued to weaponize AI, has had to do with "preventing being subjugated". What they did do was bomb 150 or so private individual school girls. You're saying the above is bait, when your own comment is nothing but it.
  - seizethecheese 7mo ago
    Pasting the same reply as you sibling comment: My comment here is about the ethics of military weapons vs assassinations of private individuals. I have no idea what you’re talking about.
    - deaux 7mo ago
      Then your comment is completely irrelevant to the conversation as a reply to > Sam eagerly pursued DoD contracts to weaponize AI. And then lobbied for legislation to ensure OpenAI cannot be held accountable if people are killed due to their systems.". Your comment can't both A. be relevant as a reply to the above B. yet have "no idea what I'm talking about", as if it is not relevant. Either both of us are saying something relevant, or neither of us are. You can't have your cake and eat it too.
      - seizethecheese 7mo ago
        Look at the parent of the comment you are quoting.
  - hax0ron3 7mo ago
    >Nothing about the US Department of War's actions over the last 2 years Questionable and violent US foreign policy is much much older than the current Trump administration.
- zarzavat 7mo ago
  The US Department of Peace has also been outright murdering civilians aboard vessels in international waters, including double tap strikes intended to murder the wounded. It's not the bait on HN that you need to be worried about but the propaganda from your own government.
  - seizethecheese 7mo ago
    My comment here is about the ethics of military weapons vs assassinations of private individuals. I have no idea what you’re talking about.
- slopinthebag 7mo ago
  No such thing as a "necessary evil", a pure oxymoron.
  - seizethecheese 7mo ago
    Why would that be the case?
- selfsigned 7mo ago
  In what world is this kind of things a necessary evil https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1954_Guatemalan_coup_d%27état https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1954_Guatemalan_coup_d%27état , I'm not convinced that any of the large scale interventionist conflict the US got involved into after WWII had a positive outcome. Senseless foreign inference and cruelty didn't just come about with the Trump admin. So should we really applaud selling shiny new toys that will enable more baseless cruelty? Probably not. Just like we shouldn't support political terrorism.

The bombed schoolgirls were "private individuals" in any reasonable meaning of "private individual".

by deaux 7mo ago

The bombed schoolgirls were "private individuals" in any reasonable meaning of "private individual".

Maybe I shouldn’t take the bait here… Yes, military power is evil, but it’s a necessary evil. A society that decides to stop making weapons is going to be subjugated by one that continues to make them. Full stop.

deaux 7mo ago
Nothing about the US Department of War's actions over the last 2 years, whose contracts Sam eagerly pursued to weaponize AI, has had to do with "preventing being subjugated". What they did do was bomb 150 or so private individual school girls. You're saying the above is bait, when your own comment is nothing but it.
- seizethecheese 7mo ago
  Pasting the same reply as you sibling comment: My comment here is about the ethics of military weapons vs assassinations of private individuals. I have no idea what you’re talking about.
  - deaux 7mo ago
    Then your comment is completely irrelevant to the conversation as a reply to > Sam eagerly pursued DoD contracts to weaponize AI. And then lobbied for legislation to ensure OpenAI cannot be held accountable if people are killed due to their systems.". Your comment can't both A. be relevant as a reply to the above B. yet have "no idea what I'm talking about", as if it is not relevant. Either both of us are saying something relevant, or neither of us are. You can't have your cake and eat it too.
    - seizethecheese 7mo ago
      Look at the parent of the comment you are quoting.
- hax0ron3 7mo ago
  >Nothing about the US Department of War's actions over the last 2 years Questionable and violent US foreign policy is much much older than the current Trump administration.
zarzavat 7mo ago
The US Department of Peace has also been outright murdering civilians aboard vessels in international waters, including double tap strikes intended to murder the wounded. It's not the bait on HN that you need to be worried about but the propaganda from your own government.
- seizethecheese 7mo ago
  My comment here is about the ethics of military weapons vs assassinations of private individuals. I have no idea what you’re talking about.
slopinthebag 7mo ago
No such thing as a "necessary evil", a pure oxymoron.
- seizethecheese 7mo ago
  Why would that be the case?
selfsigned 7mo ago
In what world is this kind of things a necessary evil https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1954_Guatemalan_coup_d%27état https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1954_Guatemalan_coup_d%27état , I'm not convinced that any of the large scale interventionist conflict the US got involved into after WWII had a positive outcome. Senseless foreign inference and cruelty didn't just come about with the Trump admin. So should we really applaud selling shiny new toys that will enable more baseless cruelty? Probably not. Just like we shouldn't support political terrorism.