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So wait - after a respiratory virus, let's call it SARS-C, that killed > 10% (25/200 = 12.5%) of their population, they split into two major groups that are now

by hn_acc1 6mo ago

So wait - after a respiratory virus, let's call it SARS-C, that killed > 10% (25/200 = 12.5%) of their population, they split into two major groups that are now at each other's throats, when before they had a generally-ok alliance / relationship? Where have I seen this before.. Think.. Think..

mckirk 6mo ago
I mean, it's understandable; having to endure a lockdown _with_ Doordash was really rough on our civilization.
- rustystump 6mo ago
  Ya, imagine not being able to pay for the doordash because your job was nonessential. Real rough indeed being hungry.
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bad_username 6mo ago
No, the outright political warfare in the US you are alluding to began much earlier than 2020. Things were getting quite ulhealthy already back in 2015/2016, probably even earlier. The "black swan" for this deep division was (I believe) not the epidemic, but the proliferation of the smartphone and social media, and the earlier transitioning of traditional news to infotainment format.
- emilsedgh 6mo ago
  I'd attribute it to 2008 financial collapse, and in general, the pressure put on the middle class that began a decade earlier. And I genuinely believe blaming things on social media and news is just a diversion so we wouldn't look at the main issue.
  - hammock 6mo ago
    Knowing what we know now, imagine how much it would have accelerated back then if the elites hadn’t been able to smother out the Occupy movement. Wild to think about
    - zahlman 6mo ago
      Quite the opposite. In my observations, the time shortly after OWS was a major inflection point.
  - andrekandre 6mo ago
    2008 was the big one, but i really think the ball started rolling after 9/11...
    - O5vYtytb 6mo ago
      Really though it all started with the federalist papers.
      - mjanx123 6mo ago
        As this article shows, it already started in the chimp-human common ancestor.
        poulpy123 6mo ago
        Nope it all started with LUCA
  - NitpickLawyer 6mo ago
    I always viewed social media as a catalyst, not the main cause. We've always have this at smaller scales / more local scales, throughout the human history. Social media just lets bob meet alice in a virtual plane, while they couldn't meet and share ideas before. But the ideas, even if reinforced by tech, were always there.
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by hn_acc1 6mo ago

mckirk 6mo ago

I mean, it's understandable; having to endure a lockdown _with_ Doordash was really rough on our civilization.

rustystump 6mo ago
Ya, imagine not being able to pay for the doordash because your job was nonessential. Real rough indeed being hungry.

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bad_username 6mo ago

No, the outright political warfare in the US you are alluding to began much earlier than 2020. Things were getting quite ulhealthy already back in 2015/2016, probably even earlier. The "black swan" for this deep division was (I believe) not the epidemic, but the proliferation of the smartphone and social media, and the earlier transitioning of traditional news to infotainment format.

emilsedgh 6mo ago
I'd attribute it to 2008 financial collapse, and in general, the pressure put on the middle class that began a decade earlier. And I genuinely believe blaming things on social media and news is just a diversion so we wouldn't look at the main issue.
- hammock 6mo ago
  Knowing what we know now, imagine how much it would have accelerated back then if the elites hadn’t been able to smother out the Occupy movement. Wild to think about
  - zahlman 6mo ago
    Quite the opposite. In my observations, the time shortly after OWS was a major inflection point.
- andrekandre 6mo ago
  2008 was the big one, but i really think the ball started rolling after 9/11...
  - O5vYtytb 6mo ago
    Really though it all started with the federalist papers.
    - mjanx123 6mo ago
      As this article shows, it already started in the chimp-human common ancestor.
      - poulpy123 6mo ago
        Nope it all started with LUCA
- NitpickLawyer 6mo ago
  I always viewed social media as a catalyst, not the main cause. We've always have this at smaller scales / more local scales, throughout the human history. Social media just lets bob meet alice in a virtual plane, while they couldn't meet and share ideas before. But the ideas, even if reinforced by tech, were always there.
- 6mo ago