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Promoting the model as potentially dangerous might backfire with the government banning it from being released by executive order.

vonneumannstan 7mo ago
I think that would be a good precedent given the current lack of rules around AI Safety. These models don't seem to be plateauing yet and could be much more dangerous than Mythos in 1-2 years.
petcat 7mo ago
> the government banning it from being released by executive order. There's no legal mechanism for the president or the government at all to do that.
- rf15 7mo ago
  I'm sure they will find something when it really starts to bother them personally.
- empath75 7mo ago
  There are ways for the government to do that sort of thing on an emergency basis, and it would take quite some time to make it's way through the courts. There are precedents from nuclear weapons technology and cryptography. I don't think it'll hold up or be particularly effective because the horse has left the barn already, but they could probably slow things down if they really wanted to.
- dist-epoch 7mo ago
  Of course there is. Fully automatic weapons are banned. Certain chemicals and biologics are banned. Certain hacking tools are banned (DMCA): > The “tools” prohibitions, set out in sections 1201(a)(2) and 1201(b), outlaw the manufacturing, sale, distribution, or trafficking of tools and technologies that make circumvention possible. These provisions ban both technologies that defeat access controls, and also technologies that defeat use restrictions imposed by copyright owners, such as copy controls. These provisions prohibit the distribution of software that was designed to defeat CD copy-protection technologies, for example. https://www.eff.org/pages/unintended-consequences-fifteen-years-under-dmca https://www.eff.org/pages/unintended-consequences-fifteen-ye...
  - petcat 7mo ago
    Those things were made illegal by Congress, not by a president's executive order, which is what this thread is about.
- marcuskane2 7mo ago
  There's no legal mechanism for the vast majority of what the president has done. Often it happens anyway, along with some protests, some resignations and maybe an eventual court case reversal months or years later.
scottyah 7mo ago
That's probably a contributing factor as to why they already partnered with all the biggest tech companies.

vonneumannstan 7mo ago

I think that would be a good precedent given the current lack of rules around AI Safety. These models don't seem to be plateauing yet and could be much more dangerous than Mythos in 1-2 years.

petcat 7mo ago

> the government banning it from being released by executive order. There's no legal mechanism for the president or the government at all to do that.

rf15 7mo ago
I'm sure they will find something when it really starts to bother them personally.
empath75 7mo ago
There are ways for the government to do that sort of thing on an emergency basis, and it would take quite some time to make it's way through the courts. There are precedents from nuclear weapons technology and cryptography. I don't think it'll hold up or be particularly effective because the horse has left the barn already, but they could probably slow things down if they really wanted to.
dist-epoch 7mo ago
Of course there is. Fully automatic weapons are banned. Certain chemicals and biologics are banned. Certain hacking tools are banned (DMCA): > The “tools” prohibitions, set out in sections 1201(a)(2) and 1201(b), outlaw the manufacturing, sale, distribution, or trafficking of tools and technologies that make circumvention possible. These provisions ban both technologies that defeat access controls, and also technologies that defeat use restrictions imposed by copyright owners, such as copy controls. These provisions prohibit the distribution of software that was designed to defeat CD copy-protection technologies, for example. https://www.eff.org/pages/unintended-consequences-fifteen-years-under-dmca https://www.eff.org/pages/unintended-consequences-fifteen-ye...
- petcat 7mo ago
  Those things were made illegal by Congress, not by a president's executive order, which is what this thread is about.
marcuskane2 7mo ago
There's no legal mechanism for the vast majority of what the president has done. Often it happens anyway, along with some protests, some resignations and maybe an eventual court case reversal months or years later.

scottyah 7mo ago

That's probably a contributing factor as to why they already partnered with all the biggest tech companies.