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I take pentoxyfylline (a synthetic substituted xanthine, caffeine is a natural substituted xanthine) occasionally as a nootropic and supplement for vascular hea
by keepamovin 6mo ago
I take pentoxyfylline (a synthetic substituted xanthine, caffeine is a natural substituted xanthine) occasionally as a nootropic and supplement for vascular health and anecdotally for me it has several nice caffeine like properties without the jitters/ long tail, sleep effects etc.
I find the listed side effects don’t happen for me besides occasional flush/blush. Which at my age is more like youthful vigor.
Caffeine is is 1,3,7-trimethylxanthine, pentoxyfylline is
3,7-dimethyl-1-(5-oxohexyl)xanthine.
Good effects are: sustained mental clarity, focus and energy with a smoother more stable baseline than caffeine’s bursty performance; good sleep, but strangely you can also stay up, if you prefer; feeling similar to “after exercise”. Half life is listed as under 1 hour, but beneficial effects can be felt for half a day after 400mg (a standard dose). So maybe there’s something like metabolite dynamics occurring here too.
This ends my erowid/hive style “trip/nootropic” report ;)
- ronjakoi 6mo agoYou should start a xanthina where you serve various xanthinated beverages.
- CableNinja 6mo agoCoukd call it... xanzi-bar
- bookofjoe 6mo ago"Stand on Zanzibar" (1969 Hugo Award Winner) — John Brunner Great book.
- qingcharles 6mo agoPentoxyfylline is prescription in the USA?
- bookofjoe 6mo agoYes
- keepamovin 6mo agoIn other countries you can just buy
- quinncom 6mo agoDo you know how much it affects your deep sleep duration? People who drink caffeine at night may claim to be able to sleep still, but they will find that deep sleep stages are shorter, which is significant because it may be the most important type of sleep.
- bot403 6mo agoI never slept as bad in my life as when I had a single can of coca cola at 8-9 pm and went to bed at 11-12pm I did this for a while working nights until I caught on. The nights I didn't have a can were much better.
- keepamovin 6mo agoSeems to enhance sleep.