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> Ads may appear for users on the Free... Ok > ...and Go plans Wtf lmao. Paying to watch ads is so normalized. Pathetic (the humanity as whole, not just Open

> Ads may appear for users on the Free... Ok > ...and Go plans Wtf lmao. Paying to watch ads is so normalized. Pathetic (the humanity as whole, not just OpenAI.)

52-6F-62 7mo ago
> the humanity as whole I think this 'pay for ads you are just lucky to be here' thing is a distinctly American invention...
- gruez 7mo ago
  Source? It's not at all obvious given that it dates back to at least the days of newspapers.
  - wizzwizz4 7mo ago
    The classified ads section in a newspaper is valuable, and you can discard it. (If you meant ads stuffed around articles: yes, that annoys me, but I'm also not familiar enough with the papers that do that to name one.)
  - 52-6F-62 7mo ago
    The newspaper ads looking to capture my escaped ancestors who stole some shoes and ran away from their indenturement for Canada. https://www.masshist.org/beehiveblog/2013/05/advertising-in-america/ https://www.masshist.org/beehiveblog/2013/05/advertising-in-... If you are looking for one canonical, authoritative source to declare something absolutely for you, you will never find it. No such thing exists for any matter. That is a myth of the internet and people raised on it.
    - gruez 7mo ago
      >If you are looking for one canonical, authoritative source to declare something absolutely for you, you will never find it Even if we treat your source as canonical and authoritative, , it doesn't answer the question I was asking. It only answers a slightly different question of "what was the first instance of a paid advertisement in an American newspaper?", which obviously is going to be American. >But did you know that the first time a paid advertisement appeared in an American newspaper it happened here in Boston?
      - 52-6F-62 7mo ago
        I don't owe you anything here.
freedomben 7mo ago
Well in their defense, the Go plan is a lot cheaper. I hate ads and actively avoid them, and I pay the "ad free" tier when it's available, but the alternative is probably no Go plan at all. Maybe that's better, but I would guess there are people willing to trade some ads for a cheaper sub
Xirdus 7mo ago
Umm... remember how people in late last century used to pay $30-50/month for cable TV that was at least 25% ads by volume? And that's in last century dollars, comparable to $100 today.

> Ads may appear for users on the Free... Ok > ...and Go plans Wtf lmao. Paying to watch ads is so normalized. Pathetic (the humanity as whole, not just OpenAI.)

52-6F-62 7mo ago

> the humanity as whole I think this 'pay for ads you are just lucky to be here' thing is a distinctly American invention...

gruez 7mo ago
Source? It's not at all obvious given that it dates back to at least the days of newspapers.
- wizzwizz4 7mo ago
  The classified ads section in a newspaper is valuable, and you can discard it. (If you meant ads stuffed around articles: yes, that annoys me, but I'm also not familiar enough with the papers that do that to name one.)
- 52-6F-62 7mo ago
  The newspaper ads looking to capture my escaped ancestors who stole some shoes and ran away from their indenturement for Canada. https://www.masshist.org/beehiveblog/2013/05/advertising-in-america/ https://www.masshist.org/beehiveblog/2013/05/advertising-in-... If you are looking for one canonical, authoritative source to declare something absolutely for you, you will never find it. No such thing exists for any matter. That is a myth of the internet and people raised on it.
  - gruez 7mo ago
    >If you are looking for one canonical, authoritative source to declare something absolutely for you, you will never find it Even if we treat your source as canonical and authoritative, , it doesn't answer the question I was asking. It only answers a slightly different question of "what was the first instance of a paid advertisement in an American newspaper?", which obviously is going to be American. >But did you know that the first time a paid advertisement appeared in an American newspaper it happened here in Boston?
    - 52-6F-62 7mo ago
      I don't owe you anything here.

freedomben 7mo ago

Well in their defense, the Go plan is a lot cheaper. I hate ads and actively avoid them, and I pay the "ad free" tier when it's available, but the alternative is probably no Go plan at all. Maybe that's better, but I would guess there are people willing to trade some ads for a cheaper sub

Xirdus 7mo ago

Umm... remember how people in late last century used to pay $30-50/month for cable TV that was at least 25% ads by volume? And that's in last century dollars, comparable to $100 today.