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> We’re beginning to test ads in ChatGPT in the US. Ads may appear for users on the Free and Go plans. Plus, Pro, Business, Enterprise, and Edu accounts will no

> We’re beginning to test ads in ChatGPT in the US. Ads may appear for users on the Free and Go plans. Plus, Pro, Business, Enterprise, and Edu accounts will not have ads. Yet.

cute_boi 6mo ago
This is always how it starts, just like Netflix. Eventually, we will have to pay a lot of money and still have ads too.
- gruez 6mo ago
  >just like Netflix. Eventually, we will have to pay a lot of money and still have ads too. This doesn't match reality. The "standard with ads" plan is $8.99 today, a dollar more than the ad-free "streaming only" plan launched in 2011. However factoring in inflation, the ad-free plan from 2011 would cost $11.74 today, which means the ad supported plan is still cheaper, even ignoring the price hikes.
  - ceejayoz 6mo ago
    At the same time, they keep hiking the other tiers, and cracking down on password sharing or kids off at college. These need to be factored in as well.
    - gruez 6mo ago
      >they keep hiking the other tiers That's why I compared against the 2011 prices. The ad-supported plan is still cheaper. >cracking down on password sharing or kids off at college Doesn't password sharing affect ad supported plans too? It basically has no effect on the comparison because it makes both the ad supported and non ad supported plans cheaper.
      - ceejayoz 6mo ago
        The crackdown on "your kid's in a dorm, you can't share the account" is intended to get that kid to buy a second account. The ad tier is cheap so they can say "well switch to the cheap plan" when someone complains about the hikes.
  - cryptonym 6mo ago
    By your inflation-factoring-logic a fair regular plan should cost less than $12 and ad plan should be about $6. $9 is +50% Ad supported plan can be a way to justify price hikes. Maybe it does match reality.
    - gruez 6mo ago
      >By your inflation-factoring-logic a fair regular plan should cost less than $12 and ad plan should be about $6. $9 is +50% You're misunderstanding my comment. I'm not arguing that price hikes haven't occurred. In fact I specifically acknowledged them. I'm only making the narrow argument that despite implications to the contrary, the ad supported plan today is cheaper than the paid plans. In other words the implication that "we're paying more and still have ads" is false.
      - cryptonym 6mo ago
        They didn't say "we're paying more and still have ads". They said they would have to pay a lot to still get ads. Maybe it's not your reality, you consider $110 a year for netflix with ads as cheap. It might be different for someone else.
        gruez 6mo ago
        >you consider $110 a year for netflix with ads as cheap I mean, if you're so fervently against ads to the extent that paying a single cent is "a lot", then I suppose it's true, but it's highly subjective. By most reasonable comparisons (ie. ads vs non-ad price today, ads vs historical ad price), it's not "a lot".
        queenkjuul 6mo ago
        It's "a lot" more than I've ever remotely considered paying to be advertised to, I'll say that
  - neves 6mo ago
    Tell "doesn't match reality" to cable television. All channels ended having ads. This is Capitalism in a American society that is looking more of a plutocracy than a democracy.
    - raw_anon_1111 6mo ago
      Please for the love of all that is holy stop with the completely false outdated meme that “at one point cable didn’t have ads” Cable was first introduced as a means to get over the air channels for remote places that couldn’t get a signal to get network tv. These channels always had ads. Then came the “Superstations”. They were local independent ad supported channels like TBS in Atlanta and WGN in Chicago that went national. They always had ads. Then the early cable channels like ESPN, the precursor to Lifetime, CNN etc and they always had ads. The other early cable channels were trying to sell ads to advertisers from day one but they didn’t have enough viewers. Yes channels that you paid extra for like HBO didn’t have ads and still don’t.
      - neves 6mo ago
        In Brazil cable started not having ads. Don't take USA for all the world
        raw_anon_1111 6mo ago
        A quick bit of Googling shows that by the time cable got to be standardized with anything worthwhile in Brazil, ads came along with it. Before then it was mostly premium channels that also don’t and never had ads in the US.
- tialaramex 6mo ago
  Indeed the Black Mirror episode "Common People" is about exactly this nonsense. After a nasty near-fatal accident Mike and Amanda start out paying a substantial monthly fee for a technology which allows Amanda to remain alive, then advertisements (puppeting Amanda!) are introduced despite the fee, the adverts are awful and seem certain to cause Amanda to lose her job - so Mike does humiliating things so he can scrape together enough for a higher tier "Plus" subscription without ads. It doesn't end well for anybody in the story. I mean, except probably some C-suite executive who gets a bonus for the enhanced revenue...
jwally 6mo ago
Literally where my head was. Take every negation statement and append "...yet!"
xigoi 6mo ago
> Ads do not influence ChatGPT’s answers. Yet.

> We’re beginning to test ads in ChatGPT in the US. Ads may appear for users on the Free and Go plans. Plus, Pro, Business, Enterprise, and Edu accounts will not have ads. Yet.

cute_boi 6mo ago

This is always how it starts, just like Netflix. Eventually, we will have to pay a lot of money and still have ads too.

gruez 6mo ago
>just like Netflix. Eventually, we will have to pay a lot of money and still have ads too. This doesn't match reality. The "standard with ads" plan is $8.99 today, a dollar more than the ad-free "streaming only" plan launched in 2011. However factoring in inflation, the ad-free plan from 2011 would cost $11.74 today, which means the ad supported plan is still cheaper, even ignoring the price hikes.
- ceejayoz 6mo ago
  At the same time, they keep hiking the other tiers, and cracking down on password sharing or kids off at college. These need to be factored in as well.
  - gruez 6mo ago
    >they keep hiking the other tiers That's why I compared against the 2011 prices. The ad-supported plan is still cheaper. >cracking down on password sharing or kids off at college Doesn't password sharing affect ad supported plans too? It basically has no effect on the comparison because it makes both the ad supported and non ad supported plans cheaper.
    - ceejayoz 6mo ago
      The crackdown on "your kid's in a dorm, you can't share the account" is intended to get that kid to buy a second account. The ad tier is cheap so they can say "well switch to the cheap plan" when someone complains about the hikes.
- cryptonym 6mo ago
  By your inflation-factoring-logic a fair regular plan should cost less than $12 and ad plan should be about $6. $9 is +50% Ad supported plan can be a way to justify price hikes. Maybe it does match reality.
  - gruez 6mo ago
    >By your inflation-factoring-logic a fair regular plan should cost less than $12 and ad plan should be about $6. $9 is +50% You're misunderstanding my comment. I'm not arguing that price hikes haven't occurred. In fact I specifically acknowledged them. I'm only making the narrow argument that despite implications to the contrary, the ad supported plan today is cheaper than the paid plans. In other words the implication that "we're paying more and still have ads" is false.
    - cryptonym 6mo ago
      They didn't say "we're paying more and still have ads". They said they would have to pay a lot to still get ads. Maybe it's not your reality, you consider $110 a year for netflix with ads as cheap. It might be different for someone else.
      - gruez 6mo ago
        >you consider $110 a year for netflix with ads as cheap I mean, if you're so fervently against ads to the extent that paying a single cent is "a lot", then I suppose it's true, but it's highly subjective. By most reasonable comparisons (ie. ads vs non-ad price today, ads vs historical ad price), it's not "a lot".
        queenkjuul 6mo ago
        It's "a lot" more than I've ever remotely considered paying to be advertised to, I'll say that
- neves 6mo ago
  Tell "doesn't match reality" to cable television. All channels ended having ads. This is Capitalism in a American society that is looking more of a plutocracy than a democracy.
  - raw_anon_1111 6mo ago
    Please for the love of all that is holy stop with the completely false outdated meme that “at one point cable didn’t have ads” Cable was first introduced as a means to get over the air channels for remote places that couldn’t get a signal to get network tv. These channels always had ads. Then came the “Superstations”. They were local independent ad supported channels like TBS in Atlanta and WGN in Chicago that went national. They always had ads. Then the early cable channels like ESPN, the precursor to Lifetime, CNN etc and they always had ads. The other early cable channels were trying to sell ads to advertisers from day one but they didn’t have enough viewers. Yes channels that you paid extra for like HBO didn’t have ads and still don’t.
    - neves 6mo ago
      In Brazil cable started not having ads. Don't take USA for all the world
      - raw_anon_1111 6mo ago
        A quick bit of Googling shows that by the time cable got to be standardized with anything worthwhile in Brazil, ads came along with it. Before then it was mostly premium channels that also don’t and never had ads in the US.
tialaramex 6mo ago
Indeed the Black Mirror episode "Common People" is about exactly this nonsense. After a nasty near-fatal accident Mike and Amanda start out paying a substantial monthly fee for a technology which allows Amanda to remain alive, then advertisements (puppeting Amanda!) are introduced despite the fee, the adverts are awful and seem certain to cause Amanda to lose her job - so Mike does humiliating things so he can scrape together enough for a higher tier "Plus" subscription without ads. It doesn't end well for anybody in the story. I mean, except probably some C-suite executive who gets a bonus for the enhanced revenue...

jwally 6mo ago

Literally where my head was. Take every negation statement and append "...yet!"

xigoi 6mo ago

> Ads do not influence ChatGPT’s answers. Yet.