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The use of wishy washy language is fab. They don't show ads; ads "will be available." (passive voice) Also, ads don't affect chat content but of course chat co

The use of wishy washy language is fab. They don't show ads; ads "will be available." (passive voice) Also, ads don't affect chat content but of course chat content affects ads, which is the whole point.

gruez 6mo ago
>Also, ads don't affect chat content but of course chat content affects ads, which is the whole point. Given that Anthropic's superbowl ad implied otherwise, I think it's a fair distinction to call about. Not to mention basically every advertising network uses context in their ads. Given the choice between ads and no ads, I'd obviously want no ads, but just like google, you need to pay the bills somehow, and not everyone can afford a $20/month claude subscription.
- baggachipz 6mo ago
  I'm curious when OpenAI will be able to start paying the bills. Because I can't think of any amount of ads which will dig them out of their hole.
  - pixel_popping 6mo ago
    They don't really need to tho, they can actually keep raising money for a decade.
    - baggachipz 6mo ago
      Then why run ads?
      - pixel_popping 6mo ago
        More money as there is never enough.
satvikpendem 6mo ago
In Google Gemini, ads do affect chat as they're native affiliate links right inside the chat, it's somewhat annoying.
- kshacker 6mo ago
  Affecting chat would mean the chat answer would be different because of ads. Btw this should be easily testable by comparing free and paid accounts
  - satvikpendem 6mo ago
    In Gemini it is different. Looks like they have a system prompt to push Google Shopping links regardless of whether the user asks for it or not, I've noticed.
52-6F-62 6mo ago
> chat content affects ads, which is the whole point. What happens when I am constantly violating usage terms by calling ChatGPT mean names for ignoring my explicit instructions and trying to turn everything into a trite creative writing project. "Not programming. Not efficiencies. Terrible, terrible poetry."

gruez 6mo ago

>Also, ads don't affect chat content but of course chat content affects ads, which is the whole point. Given that Anthropic's superbowl ad implied otherwise, I think it's a fair distinction to call about. Not to mention basically every advertising network uses context in their ads. Given the choice between ads and no ads, I'd obviously want no ads, but just like google, you need to pay the bills somehow, and not everyone can afford a $20/month claude subscription.

baggachipz 6mo ago
I'm curious when OpenAI will be able to start paying the bills. Because I can't think of any amount of ads which will dig them out of their hole.
- pixel_popping 6mo ago
  They don't really need to tho, they can actually keep raising money for a decade.
  - baggachipz 6mo ago
    Then why run ads?
    - pixel_popping 6mo ago
      More money as there is never enough.

satvikpendem 6mo ago

In Google Gemini, ads do affect chat as they're native affiliate links right inside the chat, it's somewhat annoying.

kshacker 6mo ago
Affecting chat would mean the chat answer would be different because of ads. Btw this should be easily testable by comparing free and paid accounts
- satvikpendem 6mo ago
  In Gemini it is different. Looks like they have a system prompt to push Google Shopping links regardless of whether the user asks for it or not, I've noticed.

52-6F-62 6mo ago

> chat content affects ads, which is the whole point. What happens when I am constantly violating usage terms by calling ChatGPT mean names for ignoring my explicit instructions and trying to turn everything into a trite creative writing project. "Not programming. Not efficiencies. Terrible, terrible poetry."