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> Ah, the classic "aPpLe cAn dO nO wRoNg" comment from a thread full of nothing but Apple lovers. Hey, this is an awful comment from someone who has been on HN

by tomhow 7mo ago

> Ah, the classic "aPpLe cAn dO nO wRoNg" comment from a thread full of nothing but Apple lovers. Hey, this is an awful comment from someone who has been on HN long enough to know better. That random capitalization thing is a cheap form of sneering, as well as being a tired old internet trope, and the whole comment breaks this guideline: Please don't fulminate. Please don't sneer, including at the rest of the community. This site is only a place where people want to participate because most people make the effort to do better than this. Please do your part to push the standards up rather than drag them down. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

neya 7mo ago
So, are you also going to do anything about the top comment being fake news? It literally says something completely that is not true. Minus the "sneering", I think the validity of my comment remains.
- tomhow 7mo ago
  Please don’t try to deflect from your own disrespectful conduct with this kind of “are you going to...?” goading. We don’t moderate on the basis of such charged qualitative judgments as “fake news”. We uphold the guidelines. If someone is wrong, point out how they are wrong, in the conversational style the guidelines clearly call for. Doing it in this sneering and hostile way only weakens your point and trashes this place.
  - neya 7mo ago
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    - tomhow 7mo ago
      You were asked to keep to the guidelines just a few weeks ago, particularly relating to making swipes at the community, and you committed to doing so: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47243319 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47243319. We wouldn't be having this interaction if you had kept to that commitment, nor if you had respectfully heeded the reminder I posted. This place only continues to exist because enough other people conduct themselves respectfully.
      - neya 7mo ago
        Sure, I admit I wasn't aware the alternate caps was even a thing in the guideline. If you go into my comment history further, I've done it way more times, but never been flagged before (which is why I wasn't aware it was against the guidelines). Also, I didn't insult the community in my comment (please show me where?). I just pointed out that OP was conveniently choosing to ignore certain key facts in the original article just to craft a narrative - I'm sure you know this, but many people here own Apple stock and sometimes they have a conflict of interest, which really irritates me when they don't disclose and do such shady stuff. But, let's leave that aside - isn't what you're doing now exactly considered as the very deflection you accused me of, earlier (deflection)? ie. I pointed out something you were wrong about - you just went into pointing out something I did in the past that was wrong instead of addressing my core point - that you didn't have to insult me to enforce the guidelines. You could have done so, without. Again, as you have found out, I've interacted with dang, I don't know what happened to them, but I never was insulted by them before - despite consecutive flags (and I never repeated those mistakes).
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by tomhow 7mo ago

neya 7mo ago

So, are you also going to do anything about the top comment being fake news? It literally says something completely that is not true. Minus the "sneering", I think the validity of my comment remains.

tomhow 7mo ago
Please don’t try to deflect from your own disrespectful conduct with this kind of “are you going to...?” goading. We don’t moderate on the basis of such charged qualitative judgments as “fake news”. We uphold the guidelines. If someone is wrong, point out how they are wrong, in the conversational style the guidelines clearly call for. Doing it in this sneering and hostile way only weakens your point and trashes this place.
- neya 7mo ago
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  - tomhow 7mo ago
    You were asked to keep to the guidelines just a few weeks ago, particularly relating to making swipes at the community, and you committed to doing so: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47243319 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47243319. We wouldn't be having this interaction if you had kept to that commitment, nor if you had respectfully heeded the reminder I posted. This place only continues to exist because enough other people conduct themselves respectfully.
    - neya 7mo ago
      Sure, I admit I wasn't aware the alternate caps was even a thing in the guideline. If you go into my comment history further, I've done it way more times, but never been flagged before (which is why I wasn't aware it was against the guidelines). Also, I didn't insult the community in my comment (please show me where?). I just pointed out that OP was conveniently choosing to ignore certain key facts in the original article just to craft a narrative - I'm sure you know this, but many people here own Apple stock and sometimes they have a conflict of interest, which really irritates me when they don't disclose and do such shady stuff. But, let's leave that aside - isn't what you're doing now exactly considered as the very deflection you accused me of, earlier (deflection)? ie. I pointed out something you were wrong about - you just went into pointing out something I did in the past that was wrong instead of addressing my core point - that you didn't have to insult me to enforce the guidelines. You could have done so, without. Again, as you have found out, I've interacted with dang, I don't know what happened to them, but I never was insulted by them before - despite consecutive flags (and I never repeated those mistakes).
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