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Thundermail is a great idea! I'd be more than happy to switch over assuming the migration path from say Gmail, Fastmail, etc was easy enough, and it supported c

by kn100 6mo ago

Thundermail is a great idea! I'd be more than happy to switch over assuming the migration path from say Gmail, Fastmail, etc was easy enough, and it supported custom domains.

ternaryoperator 6mo ago
I can see switching from gmail, but it would have to be really compelling to get me to switch from Fastmail.
- ryanleesipes 6mo ago
  What would get you to switch from Fastmail?
  - richardfey 6mo ago
    Probably JMAP support.
    - ryanleesipes 6mo ago
      Already a part of the offering. :)
  - Multicomp 6mo ago
    JMAP is a bonus (other fastmail user here) bjt if I can do custom sieve rules and or unlimited aliases created on demand at (somestring)@customdomainiown.com thst I can then use the sieve rules to put into a folder of the same name as that email address, I would rather give my money to support Thunderbird. Fastmail is fine and all but they are in australia so they live on spyware island and they dont have good native clients in the works like thunderbird does.
    - ryanleesipes 6mo ago
      Unlimited aliases at custom domains are a part of the offering. Technically, Thundermail supports sieve rules, we do need to come up with UX to expose it to users for management.
  - ternaryoperator 6mo ago
    The few times I've needed support, Fastmail has responded nearly immediately with the exact info I needed. So Moz would need to demonstrate excellence in customer service before I would consider any migration. (I know that doesn't directly answer your question, but it does articulate a necessary pre-condition, and one that is hard for businesses entering a new line of service to deliver--although not impossible, of course.)
ryanleesipes 6mo ago
Will support custom domains out of the box. Getting real close to launch. Join waitlist at https://thundermail.com https://thundermail.com
- kibwen 6mo ago
  Is unlimited email aliases (with or without custom domains) also on the roadmap?
  - ryanleesipes 6mo ago
    With custom domains... Yes! :)
panny 6mo ago
>Thundermail is a great idea! I think the synergy part is what is great here. Imagine thundermail is a FOSS server app. Imagine they implement things like proof-of-work for senders, and no PoW means the mail goes into a quarantine instead of directly in the user's inbox. That could fight spam, without the centralization and loss of privacy we've had in email. That hasn't happened now, because of the chicken-egg problem. There's no client that supports it because there's no server that supports it because there's no client that supports it. Thunderbird is a very big client. It could push email forward like nothing before. I may give Thundermail a try. I'd much rather self-host a Thundermail server... one that works around the port 25 block on every residential IP. Maybe my self hosted instance could receive messages relayed from the "real" thundermail server on something other than port 25.
- ryanleesipes 6mo ago
  Sign up for the waitlist here: https://Thundermail.com https://Thundermail.com Also the Thundermail service is based on Stalwart (completely foss). We'll open source any additional relevant bits. We also released the supporting services: https://github.com/thunderbird/appointment https://github.com/thunderbird/appointment https://github.com/thunderbird/tbpro-add-on https://github.com/thunderbird/tbpro-add-on https://github.com/thunderbird/thunderbird-accounts https://github.com/thunderbird/thunderbird-accounts

by kn100 6mo ago

Thundermail is a great idea! I'd be more than happy to switch over assuming the migration path from say Gmail, Fastmail, etc was easy enough, and it supported custom domains.

ternaryoperator 6mo ago

I can see switching from gmail, but it would have to be really compelling to get me to switch from Fastmail.

ryanleesipes 6mo ago
What would get you to switch from Fastmail?
- richardfey 6mo ago
  Probably JMAP support.
  - ryanleesipes 6mo ago
    Already a part of the offering. :)
- Multicomp 6mo ago
  JMAP is a bonus (other fastmail user here) bjt if I can do custom sieve rules and or unlimited aliases created on demand at (somestring)@customdomainiown.com thst I can then use the sieve rules to put into a folder of the same name as that email address, I would rather give my money to support Thunderbird. Fastmail is fine and all but they are in australia so they live on spyware island and they dont have good native clients in the works like thunderbird does.
  - ryanleesipes 6mo ago
    Unlimited aliases at custom domains are a part of the offering. Technically, Thundermail supports sieve rules, we do need to come up with UX to expose it to users for management.
- ternaryoperator 6mo ago
  The few times I've needed support, Fastmail has responded nearly immediately with the exact info I needed. So Moz would need to demonstrate excellence in customer service before I would consider any migration. (I know that doesn't directly answer your question, but it does articulate a necessary pre-condition, and one that is hard for businesses entering a new line of service to deliver--although not impossible, of course.)

ryanleesipes 6mo ago

Will support custom domains out of the box. Getting real close to launch. Join waitlist at https://thundermail.com https://thundermail.com

kibwen 6mo ago
Is unlimited email aliases (with or without custom domains) also on the roadmap?
- ryanleesipes 6mo ago
  With custom domains... Yes! :)

panny 6mo ago

>Thundermail is a great idea! I think the synergy part is what is great here. Imagine thundermail is a FOSS server app. Imagine they implement things like proof-of-work for senders, and no PoW means the mail goes into a quarantine instead of directly in the user's inbox. That could fight spam, without the centralization and loss of privacy we've had in email. That hasn't happened now, because of the chicken-egg problem. There's no client that supports it because there's no server that supports it because there's no client that supports it. Thunderbird is a very big client. It could push email forward like nothing before. I may give Thundermail a try. I'd much rather self-host a Thundermail server... one that works around the port 25 block on every residential IP. Maybe my self hosted instance could receive messages relayed from the "real" thundermail server on something other than port 25.

ryanleesipes 6mo ago
Sign up for the waitlist here: https://Thundermail.com https://Thundermail.com Also the Thundermail service is based on Stalwart (completely foss). We'll open source any additional relevant bits. We also released the supporting services: https://github.com/thunderbird/appointment https://github.com/thunderbird/appointment https://github.com/thunderbird/tbpro-add-on https://github.com/thunderbird/tbpro-add-on https://github.com/thunderbird/thunderbird-accounts https://github.com/thunderbird/thunderbird-accounts