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I’m studying currently Phenomenology of Geist. No code is so gard to read as it.

by delis-thumbs-7e 7mo ago

efficax 7mo ago
Just wait until you get into the Science of Logic
- sigbottle 7mo ago
  I'm starting with the Science of Logic! I want to cry...
  - mykowebhn 7mo ago
    The first part of his Encyclopedia will help a lot, and might be better to read first before diving into SoL.
mykowebhn 7mo ago
Did you start with the Preface, or are you going to read it at the end? (I strongly recommend the latter.)
- delis-thumbs-7e 7mo ago
  I started the preface, read maybe a page and thought it was a joke and I actually downloaded somebody’s machine-generated lark. After brief study I jumped forward and also got some explanatory texts (Routledge guide) to read with it.
dugidugout 7mo ago
Blah I need to get around to this! I often gesture towards this phenomenology when religious folk casually attempt to claim "spirit" as some form of belief they hold over me. I honestly don't know if I've developed the position well, it is almost entirely through the lens of continental philosophy absorbing Hegel, but I use it to illustrate that my concept of spirit, as an atheist, may not be a different phenomenological occurrence than that of a religious framing and even shares the quality of a rich historical lineage I can draw from. I could just as easily retreat into untranslated German that sounds poetic or prophetic to the uninitiated, but that would be doing exactly what I'm asking them not to do, leaning on a vocabulary the other person can't engage with without first conceding the ground it's built on. This seems to effectively persuade them to adjust their vocabulary to a register I can actually engage with without needing to hedge for the axiomatic differences we have. This is a comfortable mode of engagement and it is one I can share with religious folk, but I do find they often refuse this register and I will admit I can't always articulate why I find their refusal frustrating either.

I’m studying currently Phenomenology of Geist. No code is so gard to read as it.

efficax 7mo ago

Just wait until you get into the Science of Logic

sigbottle 7mo ago
I'm starting with the Science of Logic! I want to cry...
- mykowebhn 7mo ago
  The first part of his Encyclopedia will help a lot, and might be better to read first before diving into SoL.

mykowebhn 7mo ago

Did you start with the Preface, or are you going to read it at the end? (I strongly recommend the latter.)

delis-thumbs-7e 7mo ago
I started the preface, read maybe a page and thought it was a joke and I actually downloaded somebody’s machine-generated lark. After brief study I jumped forward and also got some explanatory texts (Routledge guide) to read with it.

dugidugout 7mo ago

Blah I need to get around to this! I often gesture towards this phenomenology when religious folk casually attempt to claim "spirit" as some form of belief they hold over me. I honestly don't know if I've developed the position well, it is almost entirely through the lens of continental philosophy absorbing Hegel, but I use it to illustrate that my concept of spirit, as an atheist, may not be a different phenomenological occurrence than that of a religious framing and even shares the quality of a rich historical lineage I can draw from. I could just as easily retreat into untranslated German that sounds poetic or prophetic to the uninitiated, but that would be doing exactly what I'm asking them not to do, leaning on a vocabulary the other person can't engage with without first conceding the ground it's built on. This seems to effectively persuade them to adjust their vocabulary to a register I can actually engage with without needing to hedge for the axiomatic differences we have. This is a comfortable mode of engagement and it is one I can share with religious folk, but I do find they often refuse this register and I will admit I can't always articulate why I find their refusal frustrating either.