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It really feels like LLMs will mostly become tools for tech workers rather than the kind of civilization-level transformation sama has been peddling. Every sing

It really feels like LLMs will mostly become tools for tech workers rather than the kind of civilization-level transformation sama has been peddling. Every single comment here seems to confirm the above.

wolttam 7mo ago
This is kind of the goldilocks zone for LLMs right now. I wouldn't mistake this for any kind of capability plateau. There is a massive push towards making transformers the engine of humanoid (and other kinds of) robotics, we just haven't reached the hype moment for those yet.
- bossyTeacher 7mo ago
  > I wouldn't mistake this for any kind of capability plateau. There is a massive push towards making transformers the engine of humanoid (and other kinds of) robotics, we just haven't reached the hype moment for those yet. Problem is that the fuel to get this train going relies on investors money. Investors aren't going to be happy with the quote I took from your message. And that's the real bet really, can the industry turn the spark into fire before the investor money runs out?
  - wolttam 7mo ago
    Development towards those goals will continue with or without massive investor capital, see Google’s involvement with Boston Dynamics. And plenty of very wealthy folks see the writing on the wall wrt robotics.
    - swdf 7mo ago
      "Development towards those goals will continue with or without massive investor capital, see Google’s involvement with Boston Dynamics" Lol google holds and invests its shareholders cash on their behalf. Using that money comes with a cost - they demand a rate of return. Swear most of you need to take a corporate finance 101 class.
      - wolttam 7mo ago
        But Google is not a scrappy startup. They're sitting on over $100 bil in cash.
dude250711 7mo ago
I have heard a CTO had a major success building a side project over a weekend.
- bossyTeacher 7mo ago
  Is that CTO in the room with us?
azmz 7mo ago
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randomNumber7 7mo ago
> Every single comment here seems to confirm the above. The population on Hacker News heavily skewed towards tech workers so I wouldn't draw a conclusion from that.
000ooo000 7mo ago
Wouldn't put too much weight on HN comments boosting AI. Lots of brand new accounts, obvious LLM drivel ("it's not X, it's Y"). I just tried to reply to one to call out how overt it was and the comment was already killed, so they're definitely here.
swdf 7mo ago
Thats exactly what they will be and they will not earn excess returns. So the valuations of OAI and Anthropic are bizarro. And I dont see open source development stopping either.

wolttam 7mo ago

This is kind of the goldilocks zone for LLMs right now. I wouldn't mistake this for any kind of capability plateau. There is a massive push towards making transformers the engine of humanoid (and other kinds of) robotics, we just haven't reached the hype moment for those yet.

bossyTeacher 7mo ago
> I wouldn't mistake this for any kind of capability plateau. There is a massive push towards making transformers the engine of humanoid (and other kinds of) robotics, we just haven't reached the hype moment for those yet. Problem is that the fuel to get this train going relies on investors money. Investors aren't going to be happy with the quote I took from your message. And that's the real bet really, can the industry turn the spark into fire before the investor money runs out?
- wolttam 7mo ago
  Development towards those goals will continue with or without massive investor capital, see Google’s involvement with Boston Dynamics. And plenty of very wealthy folks see the writing on the wall wrt robotics.
  - swdf 7mo ago
    "Development towards those goals will continue with or without massive investor capital, see Google’s involvement with Boston Dynamics" Lol google holds and invests its shareholders cash on their behalf. Using that money comes with a cost - they demand a rate of return. Swear most of you need to take a corporate finance 101 class.
    - wolttam 7mo ago
      But Google is not a scrappy startup. They're sitting on over $100 bil in cash.

dude250711 7mo ago

I have heard a CTO had a major success building a side project over a weekend.

bossyTeacher 7mo ago
Is that CTO in the room with us?

azmz 7mo ago

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randomNumber7 7mo ago

> Every single comment here seems to confirm the above. The population on Hacker News heavily skewed towards tech workers so I wouldn't draw a conclusion from that.

000ooo000 7mo ago

Wouldn't put too much weight on HN comments boosting AI. Lots of brand new accounts, obvious LLM drivel ("it's not X, it's Y"). I just tried to reply to one to call out how overt it was and the comment was already killed, so they're definitely here.

swdf 7mo ago

Thats exactly what they will be and they will not earn excess returns. So the valuations of OAI and Anthropic are bizarro. And I dont see open source development stopping either.