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Those concerns have evolved away from their original mission. Not an unusual situation for organizations like this as a they shrink and lose relevance.
by indoordin0saur 7mo ago
Those concerns have evolved away from their original mission. Not an unusual situation for organizations like this as a they shrink and lose relevance.
- archagon 7mo agoWhat makes you think they are shrinking and losing relevance, other than feels?
- boznz 7mo agoIt's just logic. Unless their twitter audience all create accounts on these other platforms, then by default the EFF have both shrunk their influence and lost relevance.
- manwds 7mo agoTheir post is a good start. The 'numbers' argument is just a facade to leave X because they don't like Elon.
- Arubis 7mo agoMy sibling in sin, I have an EFF tee from about 2001-2002 that reads, in boldface, “FREE SPEECH HAS A POSSE”. They have always been broadly political.
- zahlman 7mo agoThis does not address the substance of the comment you are replying to. In fact, that comment was itself replying to a comment making the same argument you are making, explicitly explaining why it is non-sequitur.
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- ecshafer 7mo agoI miss when tech was mostly the former. Or many just the world when these niches could exist without political activists for the omnicause.
- zeafoamrun 6mo agoAgreed. There are a lot of things that don't have anything to do with software freedom in this explanation of why they're leaving X. I think they've lost the plot.
- rafterydj 7mo ago[flagged]
- zeafoamrun 7mo agoSpoiler: it's the same people
- busterarm 7mo agoI was around both communities before the transition happened and you're really only about 20% right.
- grayhatter 7mo agoYou learned how to identify them better, and the community is hiding their identity less. Nothing happened, except maybe you forgot what it means to be a hacker.
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- Barbing 7mo agoSad to hear. Can you help me understand its shrinkage and loss of relevancy?
- kbelder 7mo agoIt reminds me a bit of the ACLU. If nothing else, they were always respectable in their vociferous defense of the 1st amendment and free speech. But they got caught up in other ideological battles, and transitioned to a more partisan organization... defending speech they politically agreed with, not worrying about others. Generally, becoming more small-minded. The ACLU was always considered a leftist organization, and I'm sure that in general most of it's staff was so; but their mission was scoped to certain issues, and anybody who agreed with that mission, despite their other politics, could support them. Once partisanship takes over, though, it isolates them. If the EFF isn't careful, it is going to be an organization not for those who support certain digital freedoms, but for Leftists who support certain digital freedoms. That'll do nothing but make it more difficult to accomplish their original goals. I expect it'll also come with a loss of focus, similar to what happened at Mozilla.
- pessimizer 7mo ago> But they got caught up in other ideological battles That wasn't the cause, that was the effect. They got flooded with cash for participating in particular ideological battles, so they continued, the smarter older people got disgusted (and just old) and left, the stupider newer people who came in were only interested in working on those ideological battles, and at some point the ACLU ceased to stand for anything in particular and became Yet Another Democratic Nonprofit. Hopefully this isn't happening with the EFF. If they just become Democratic Tech CEO Pressure Group, it'll be another once great institution zombified. > Leftists Such an abused word. These are just Democratic Party partisans. They have no firm political opinions other than their own moral superiority, just like their opponents. They're building careers; it's a politics of personal accumulation.