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Not over yet. More hikes will come. It will reach $1000.

by deadbabe 6mo ago

satvikpendem 6mo ago
That's what I said by subsidization being over.
- operatingthetan 6mo ago
  The subsidization being "over" would mean we are paying their actual cost or more.
  - satvikpendem 6mo ago
    I see what you mean, I misread your initial reply.
- zamadatix 6mo ago
  Can you expand what you mean by "subsidization being over" in terms of the plan prices? - Plus is still the same $20 - 20x Pro is still the same $200 - This is a new 5x tier is $100 https://help.openai.com/en/articles/9793128-what-is-chatgpt-pro#:~:text=Who%20is%20the%20Pro%20plan%20for%3F https://help.openai.com/en/articles/9793128-what-is-chatgpt-... is probably a better direct comparison of the 3
  - satvikpendem 6mo ago
    They're trying to slowly move up market. I assume soon the $20 will get its own restrictions in the future (and/or ads) to get people to pay $100.
    - zamadatix 6mo ago
      The same could have been claimed in 2024 when they introduced the $200 Pro plan. Nothing is over yet just because of what could possibly happen next.
      - satvikpendem 6mo ago
        Yes, and now they (will) have ads in the lower tiers and eventually will add them in higher tiers as well. It's no different to Netflix's methods. Therefore the statement would have been proven right if it were claimed back then.
        zamadatix 6mo ago
        But these are, again, additional tiers. You can't just say because they've added more things the old things are over - the old things actually have to go away first. Eventually they may get there (or not). It may be another few years (or not). Nothing is actually now over though any more than it was now over in 2024.
        satvikpendem 6mo ago
        Additional tiers to get people to move up as they enshittify the lower tiers. We already see it in other companies as well as OpenAI themselves so my inference is based on that, not to wait and see until they do indeed enshittify it.
        zamadatix 6mo ago
        That the inference would say these existing paid tiers should have already enshittified with the 2024 $200 Pro announcement is precisely why one does need to wait & see.
  - conradkay 6mo ago
    Codex had 2x usage until April 1, I think when that ended there were a lot more people (like myself) who were fine on $20 but now want more usage

Not over yet. More hikes will come. It will reach $1000.

satvikpendem 6mo ago

That's what I said by subsidization being over.

operatingthetan 6mo ago
The subsidization being "over" would mean we are paying their actual cost or more.
- satvikpendem 6mo ago
  I see what you mean, I misread your initial reply.
zamadatix 6mo ago
Can you expand what you mean by "subsidization being over" in terms of the plan prices? - Plus is still the same $20 - 20x Pro is still the same $200 - This is a new 5x tier is $100 https://help.openai.com/en/articles/9793128-what-is-chatgpt-pro#:~:text=Who%20is%20the%20Pro%20plan%20for%3F https://help.openai.com/en/articles/9793128-what-is-chatgpt-... is probably a better direct comparison of the 3
- satvikpendem 6mo ago
  They're trying to slowly move up market. I assume soon the $20 will get its own restrictions in the future (and/or ads) to get people to pay $100.
  - zamadatix 6mo ago
    The same could have been claimed in 2024 when they introduced the $200 Pro plan. Nothing is over yet just because of what could possibly happen next.
    - satvikpendem 6mo ago
      Yes, and now they (will) have ads in the lower tiers and eventually will add them in higher tiers as well. It's no different to Netflix's methods. Therefore the statement would have been proven right if it were claimed back then.
      - zamadatix 6mo ago
        But these are, again, additional tiers. You can't just say because they've added more things the old things are over - the old things actually have to go away first. Eventually they may get there (or not). It may be another few years (or not). Nothing is actually now over though any more than it was now over in 2024.
        satvikpendem 6mo ago
        Additional tiers to get people to move up as they enshittify the lower tiers. We already see it in other companies as well as OpenAI themselves so my inference is based on that, not to wait and see until they do indeed enshittify it.
        zamadatix 6mo ago
        That the inference would say these existing paid tiers should have already enshittified with the 2024 $200 Pro announcement is precisely why one does need to wait & see.
- conradkay 6mo ago
  Codex had 2x usage until April 1, I think when that ended there were a lot more people (like myself) who were fine on $20 but now want more usage