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Their logic for why they're on TikTok and Facebook seems sound to me, but doesn't that same logic apply to X? I kept waiting for the explanation but it never ca
by Ajedi32 7mo ago
Their logic for why they're on TikTok and Facebook seems sound to me, but doesn't that same logic apply to X? I kept waiting for the explanation but it never came...
- samename 7mo ago[dead]
- mghackerlady 7mo agothere isn't enough people left there to be worth the tradeoff
- Ajedi32 7mo ago13 million impressions a year isn't enough to be worth copy-pasting a few posts from Facebook?
- ceejayoz 7mo agoNot if enough folks think your posting there is a sign you're an ass. If you hang out in a bar with KKK memorabilia everywhere - and open the replies of any reasonably popular news story on X before complaining that's not a fair comparison - people make conclusions off your presence, even if you're personally there for the tasty beer.
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- loeg 7mo ago[flagged]
- ceejayoz 7mo agoThose are two directly contradictory statements.
- loeg 7mo ago[flagged]
- cosmic_cheese 7mo agoEven if I make an effort to train its algorithm away from overtly political posts, I frequently see all manner of far-right garbage in the replies, often including racial slurs among other nastiness. That kind of thing existed in the Twitter days too, but at least back then it was at dramatically lower volumes and repeat offenders usually got banned. Now it runs rampant, largely coming from bot accounts posting from south-east Asia and various parts of Africa.
- qzx_pierri 7mo ago[flagged]
- satvikpendem 7mo agoThose people would have long left X though so I'm not sure why the existing people would think that. If you're talking about external people judging them about posting there, no one thinks that, like the sibling comment mentions. People will just think at worst that they might need the reach of X so they begrudgingly post there.
- rockemsockem 7mo agoI have never seen KKK posts on X. Either you're commenting from personal experience, in which case, wow, who were you following, or you're going off reporting which would seem to be a bit skewed.
- tgma 7mo agoEven if it were true, that is not the logic they cite though. They make up a story of the impressions were reduced relative to the platform's old days, not absolute terms; they don't address the cost of tweeting being minimal at all, almost certainly a year of tweeting would be less costly than writing a rant blog post against X. Many brands just autopost everything everywhere for syndication purposes. So we know why they did it. They wanted to take a stance against X. They just didn't have the balls to say it out loud or the dignity to leave quietly.
- Levitz 7mo agoLiterally nobody that takes this stance around X has or should have political relevancy to begin with though.
- EricDeb 7mo agoX "impressions" are not worth very much
- rc_kas 7mo agoAt least half of those are bots.
- fsckboy 7mo ago>there isn't enough people left there to be worth the tradeoff what tradeoff?
- SV_BubbleTime 7mo agoThis is what I haven’t seen a single person defending this attempt to answer. What cost is there to post on X at the same time as the other platforms? Zero. It’s not like they need to moderate forums. We all know what the people defending this are doing it for and EFF barely plays into it at all. This is Musk Man Bad, nothing more.
- qotgalaxy 7mo ago[dead]
- mememememememo 7mo agoSounds like: I wont get out of bed for $100k
- Y_Y 7mo agoSame, but I'll get into bed for half that
- mememememememo 7mo agoAh I see what you are saying. You are a mattress tester.
- teej 7mo agoX has more active users than it ever has in its history
- the_real_cher 7mo agoI had that exact same thought. The argument they presented applies to any walled garden, they gave no reason why X would be the exception. It's clear this is about politics, and I'm not opposed to that, Elon is not awesome, but trying to justify it otherwise seems kind of shady.
- ethanrutherford 7mo agoIt's pretty damn simple actually. Their target audience by and large doesn't use twitter anymore, either.
- Ajedi32 7mo agoThey're a global issues advocacy organization. "Their target audience" is everyone, or at least it ought to be if they're doing their job right. Ignoring people of any demographic or political persuasion would be a serious strategic mistake in my opinion.
- trelane 7mo ago> "Their target audience" is everyone, or at least it ought to be if they're doing their job right Yes. If.
- solid_fuel 7mo agoBy that logic they should be printing memos and dumping them in the Hudson, in case some of the people swimming there want to read them. I think you just need to accept that clearly the EFF is not getting engagement on Twitter anymore - either because the academic and professional crowd has largely left for better moderated, more interesting spaces (like I and most of my friends did). Or because they are being downranked by the algorithm. In either case, they're making this decision based on data that they have, clearly the tiny amount of traffic from Twitter is not worth the effort and reputational harm that comes from staying on the platform.
- Levitz 7mo ago
- vintermann 7mo agoI think they see X now as a branded political vanity project for one guy, much like Truth Social is for Trump. I know a lot of us see it that way. For what good it does, YouTube, TikTok and Facebook aren't that yet (the Metaverse might have been borderline though, haha)