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So you want me to convince myself that immigration is an issue? You blame immigrants moving into the country causing what problem exactly? Too many NHS workers
by testfrequency 6mo ago
So you want me to convince myself that immigration is an issue?
You blame immigrants moving into the country causing what problem exactly? Too many NHS workers from foreign countries now, or too much competition for you when applying for roles?
- 0xy 6mo ago[flagged]
- testfrequency 6mo ago!!!!! Wow. Foreigners == Bad. I’m assuming you couldn’t attend the exhibit? https://www.theguardian.com/society/2023/jun/25/exhibition-celebrates-untold-stories-of-filipino-nurses-in-nhs https://www.theguardian.com/society/2023/jun/25/exhibition-c...
- foldr 6mo agoThis isn’t a serious contribution to the discussion. The overall level of NHS services would clearly be far lower (non-existent in some cases) without the contribution of immigrants.
- 0xy 6mo agoDo you believe that foreigners should be allowed to practice as nurses with fake qualifications? Because the NHS does. As they were ACTIVELY working while the NHS knew about the forgery. Do you have evidence that there is a widespread, institutional fake qualifications problem with native NHS nurses? Please provide evidence. This is what would show that foreign workers in the NHS do not drag down standards on average.
- foldr 6mo agoWe’re not going to figure out a practical way to improve the NHS with this level of debate. We get that you don’t like foreign nurses, but I’m not going to respond to your rhetorical questions.
- 0xy 6mo agoYou put words in my mouth, that's a dishonest way of arguing :) I never once said all foreign nurses or bad, nor did I say I dislike them. I pointed out widespread, institutional level fraud that puts patients at risk, exclusively by foreign NHS staff. It's worrying you can't respond to the argument without strawmans. Is patient safety a concern for you or does politics trump it?
- foldr 6mo agoYou know that the NHS crucially depends on immigrant doctors and nurses and that their contribution is overwhelmingly positive. Your original comment was a completely transparent attempt to derail the discussion with a single cherry picked example.
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- 0xy 6mo agoForeign NHS workers can be 'overwhelmingly' competent AND still drag down standards on average due to widespread fraud. You seem to be avoiding any questioning of specific groups engaging in institutional fraud. Is fraud a problem or not? Should we have standards at all? Does patient safety matter or should we let fake nurses put patients at risk KNOWINGLY?
- foldr 6mo agoThere aren't anywhere near enough British nurses for the NHS to use only British nurses. Can you point to a credible long term plan to change that situation? That's what you'd do if you had a goal beyond just stirring up unjustified mistrust of foreigners.
- jacquesm 6mo agoWhat's hilarious is that this is a French guy that moved to the UK bitching about immigration into the UK / Europe. You can't make this up.