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For some context around this sub r/BetterOffline, they follow Ed Zitron who is an AI denier, AI skeptic, or whatever you want to call him. He's on the extreme e

For some context around this sub r/BetterOffline, they follow Ed Zitron who is an AI denier, AI skeptic, or whatever you want to call him. He's on the extreme end. They basically deny everything positive AI brings. If AI cures cancer, they'll say but AI hasn't cured aging yet so it's still useless. If AI solves a math conjecture, they'll say but AI hallucinated that one time so we can't use it. The goal post keeps moving. It's the opposite of r/accelerate. When I read the sub, I can't help but get a cult-following feeling. They'll twist facts and bend them to their beliefs. It's not much different than people who seriously think the Earth is flat in my opinion.

MultifokalHirn 7mo ago
thank you for the context info - would have had no idea
- cyanydeez 7mo ago
  hes pousoned your context. they dont deny AI everything. the context is business and AI jesus, eg, AI will fix all the problems AI has.
dfansteel 7mo ago
Frequently I’m told “A.I. will solve global warming.” Without remembering that we know how to solve global warming, we just choose not to. There are so many more concerns around LLM use that for a lot of people the goals haven’t moved at all and that it remains there is no ethical use of A.I. not the least of which are: There is no argument for A.I. that doesn’t amount to providing capital access to labor without providing labor a reciprocal access to capital. The source material was ingested without permission or license of the copyright holder. No residuals are being paid. If your industry relies on crimes to exist it probably shouldn’t. Hyperscalers are adding data centers to under developed and rural communities dramatically raising the cost of electricity while consuming water and providing few jobs. A tragedy of the commons as the internet balkanizes into more and more walled gardens specifically to prevent the ingestion of intellectual property.

MultifokalHirn 7mo ago

thank you for the context info - would have had no idea

cyanydeez 7mo ago
hes pousoned your context. they dont deny AI everything. the context is business and AI jesus, eg, AI will fix all the problems AI has.

dfansteel 7mo ago

Frequently I’m told “A.I. will solve global warming.” Without remembering that we know how to solve global warming, we just choose not to. There are so many more concerns around LLM use that for a lot of people the goals haven’t moved at all and that it remains there is no ethical use of A.I. not the least of which are: There is no argument for A.I. that doesn’t amount to providing capital access to labor without providing labor a reciprocal access to capital. The source material was ingested without permission or license of the copyright holder. No residuals are being paid. If your industry relies on crimes to exist it probably shouldn’t. Hyperscalers are adding data centers to under developed and rural communities dramatically raising the cost of electricity while consuming water and providing few jobs. A tragedy of the commons as the internet balkanizes into more and more walled gardens specifically to prevent the ingestion of intellectual property.