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in FY2024 the entire budget for the Forest Service was $10.8B
by convolvatron 6mo ago
in FY2024 the entire budget for the Forest Service was $10.8B
- actionfromafar 6mo ago1 day of military special operations?
- AmVess 6mo agoHave to pay for the pending war with Cuba somehow.
- NooneAtAll3 6mo agono idea how big or small that is, so here's my OoM analysis: 10B$ is equal to 100k people with 100k$ a year salaries that's 2k such salaries per state, I guess half or more can be counted for buildings/traveling/equipment expenses no idea what to do with "1k people per state" estimate tho
- Kirby64 6mo agoBudget for an entity costs far, far, far more than just salaries alone. Also, all in cost on a salaried employee is usually 2-3x their actual salary cost… this isn’t 100k people. It’s roughly 35k people (per their own publicly available info) as well as presumably a large amount of actual physical costs. You gotta pay for offices, equipment, consumables, etc etc.
- NooneAtAll3 6mo ago> You gotta pay for offices, equipment, consumables, etc etc. aka literally what I said in the next line :-) 35k is same Order-of-magnitude as the 50k I set. Still no idea what to do/compare with those numbers tho --- numbers in sister comment say FBI has same budget/headcount, so... 300m pop vs 35k agents is ~10k:1, and since area-wise ~1% is urban and ~10% is forests... each Forest Service employee gets to keep and eye on ~100k house lots worth of trees? medium-sized city worth of forests per every man
- abetusk 6mo agoThe US collected $5.23T in tax revenue in 2025, $2.1T is individual income tax [0]. GDP is estimated at around $30T. Spending on social security is about $680B, medicare is $480B, defense is at $410B [1]. Microsoft's valuation is approx. $2.8T [2], Google $3.8T [3], Amazon $2.3T [4], Facebook $1.6T [5] (Linux supply side is valued at approx. $8.8T). The FBI employs roughly 38k people with about $10B in funding [7]. The CIA employs roughly 22k people with about $15B (?) in funding [8]. So, from that perspective, $10B is roughly .5% of yearly tax revenue (and about how much the FBI/CIA are funded) and estimated 50k people is about the size of the FBI and CIA combined. [0] https://fiscaldata.treasury.gov/americas-finance-guide/government-revenue/ https://fiscaldata.treasury.gov/americas-finance-guide/gover... [1] https://fiscaldata.treasury.gov/americas-finance-guide/federal-spending/ https://fiscaldata.treasury.gov/americas-finance-guide/feder... [2] https://finance.yahoo.com/quote/MSFT/key-statistics/ https://finance.yahoo.com/quote/MSFT/key-statistics/ [3] https://finance.yahoo.com/quote/GOOG/key-statistics/ https://finance.yahoo.com/quote/GOOG/key-statistics/ [4] https://companiesmarketcap.com/amazon/marketcap/ https://companiesmarketcap.com/amazon/marketcap/ [5] https://companiesmarketcap.com/meta-platforms/marketcap/ https://companiesmarketcap.com/meta-platforms/marketcap/ [6] https://www.hbs.edu/ris/Publication%20Files/24-038_51f8444f-502c-4139-8bf2-56eb4b65c58a.pdf https://www.hbs.edu/ris/Publication%20Files/24-038_51f8444f-... [7] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal_Bureau_of_Investigation https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal_Bureau_of_Investigatio... [8] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Central_Intelligence_Agency https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Central_Intelligence_Agency
- fmobus 6mo agoNow do the same calculations for the DOD
- goatlover 6mo agoSo less than 0.03% of the national debt?
- doom2 6mo agoSo roughly the average annual budget of ICE, just one component of DHS, before their $80B OBBB cash injection
- LorenPechtel 6mo agoThis isn't about the budget. It's about destroying the protection of the lands. That's the real prize.