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What people seem to miss is that they don't need to get the investment back from people, they will get it from machines.

AnimalMuppet 7mo ago
Could you explain how you think that's going to work? Because to me it seems that until machines have bank accounts, there's no money for them to get.
- ValentineC 7mo ago
  Not the parent, but I guess that if AGI happened and was competent enough to trade markets, they'd earn the company back their investment in a short period.
  - Gigachad 7mo ago
    China would have an equivalent version out for cheap next month anyway.
    - mirekrusin 7mo ago
      They are 6-12 months behind not 1 month and precisely the gap will widen if they can’t do distillation.
      - Gigachad 7mo ago
        I have doubts the gap will widen. If you look at the research papers, the majority of researchers are Chinese. Of course many of them are living in the US or elsewhere. But under the current circumstances, many are returning home or choosing not to leave China. The future of cutting edge research and tech seems to be progressively moving to China. And a delay in model quality could represent more of an unwillingness to burn stacks of cash to be first, when you can have the same thing slightly later for much cheaper.
- mirekrusin 7mo ago
  People make mistake of thinking that their only way of making money is directly selling tokens. They miss the fact that if you have AGI it’s better to keep tokens to yourself and sell final results instead. When we all loose jobs it’s not going to be to somebody using their tokens, it’s going to be to them selling final products. Selling tokens will be to them like selling books by Amazon, their revenue will be dominated by self branded services and products that doesn’t require exposing AGI internals directly. Tokens API will always be nerfed.
girvo 7mo ago
People are the one with money, though, at the end of the day.
- jatora 7mo ago
  you dont need money if you have resources and manpower
  - sethops1 7mo ago
    You think that manpower will work for free? And the resources will just turn into product at no cost?
  - stingraycharles 7mo ago
    You need money to buy resources and manpower.
    - jatora 7mo ago
      The topic in question is manpower being automated

AnimalMuppet 7mo ago

Could you explain how you think that's going to work? Because to me it seems that until machines have bank accounts, there's no money for them to get.

ValentineC 7mo ago
Not the parent, but I guess that if AGI happened and was competent enough to trade markets, they'd earn the company back their investment in a short period.
- Gigachad 7mo ago
  China would have an equivalent version out for cheap next month anyway.
  - mirekrusin 7mo ago
    They are 6-12 months behind not 1 month and precisely the gap will widen if they can’t do distillation.
    - Gigachad 7mo ago
      I have doubts the gap will widen. If you look at the research papers, the majority of researchers are Chinese. Of course many of them are living in the US or elsewhere. But under the current circumstances, many are returning home or choosing not to leave China. The future of cutting edge research and tech seems to be progressively moving to China. And a delay in model quality could represent more of an unwillingness to burn stacks of cash to be first, when you can have the same thing slightly later for much cheaper.
mirekrusin 7mo ago
People make mistake of thinking that their only way of making money is directly selling tokens. They miss the fact that if you have AGI it’s better to keep tokens to yourself and sell final results instead. When we all loose jobs it’s not going to be to somebody using their tokens, it’s going to be to them selling final products. Selling tokens will be to them like selling books by Amazon, their revenue will be dominated by self branded services and products that doesn’t require exposing AGI internals directly. Tokens API will always be nerfed.

girvo 7mo ago

People are the one with money, though, at the end of the day.

jatora 7mo ago
you dont need money if you have resources and manpower
- sethops1 7mo ago
  You think that manpower will work for free? And the resources will just turn into product at no cost?
- stingraycharles 7mo ago
  You need money to buy resources and manpower.
  - jatora 7mo ago
    The topic in question is manpower being automated