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If someone was wondering here are the supported countries: Denmark, Germany, Estonia, Finland, France, Greece, Ireland, Iceland, Italy, Latvia, Liechtenstein, L

by schmrz 14y ago

If someone was wondering here are the supported countries: Denmark, Germany, Estonia, Finland, France, Greece, Ireland, Iceland, Italy, Latvia, Liechtenstein, Lithuania, Luxembourg, Malta, Netherlands, Norway, Austria, Poland, Portugal, Sweden, Switzerland, Slovakia, Slovenia, Spain, Czech Rep ., Turkey, UK, Hungary, Cyprus (Greek part), Israel. (from https://www.paymill.com/en-gb/support-3/worth-knowing/terms-conditions/index.html https://www.paymill.com/en-gb/support-3/worth-knowing/terms-...)

guard-of-terra 14y ago
What's the point of supporting both Greece and Turkey but not the other part of Cyprus? Just wondering.
- ekurutepe 14y ago
  Probably simply because they're not officially recognized by the EU.
  - guard-of-terra 14y ago
    I bet they aren't officially recognized by USA either, you can still buy Coca-Cola there. Seriously, I come to think IT products are inferior to physical products in the terms of being able to distribute and make them available regardless of politics.
    - kc0bfv 14y ago
      I suspect citizens of Iran, North Korea, China and the old USSR would disagree with that last sentiment. Ooh! And the US (Cuban cigars).
      - guard-of-terra 14y ago
        Do you think there are no iPhones in Iran or North Korea? Hint: there are. Even in USSR people managed to smuggle enough British LPs and Japanese tape recorders to kickstart a Rock movement. It's not that hard. Compare this to major IT services (Amazon, iTunes, movie streaming) not available in quite a few otherwise rich and democratic, albeit small, countries; or even only available in a selected few of countries.
        kc0bfv 14y ago
        Well, I guess my point was that there are a lot of physical goods that US companies may not sell to these countries due to sanctions - political reasons. Certainly folks circumvent these measures. People also circumvent regional restrictions on Internet services with VPNs. I'm sure this company doesn't want to smuggle its service in. I have no idea why the service isn't available in some specific area, but I suspect "not being recognized by the EU" isn't the primary reason. Though that may make implementation more difficult in an area. My impression has been that companies have prevented each other from distributing to some of those rich and democratic small countries. Through region specific licensing of their media they've limited distribution. I don't think those are political measures, although certainly in other cases companies have used political means to achieve their goals.
Ives 14y ago
It seems like someone forgot Belgium (again).
- jpkrohling_jpk 14y ago
  No, we haven't. It's missing only from the Terms and Conditions webpage. We have Belgium in our hearts, in our language switcher and in our activation form :-)
  - Ives 14y ago
    Great!
ujdtyhf 14y ago
Note that the standard form of payment in Poland is wire transfer. There are gateways for it, like przelewy24.pl or payu.pl. Nobody pays online with a credit card.

by schmrz 14y ago

guard-of-terra 14y ago

What's the point of supporting both Greece and Turkey but not the other part of Cyprus? Just wondering.

ekurutepe 14y ago
Probably simply because they're not officially recognized by the EU.
- guard-of-terra 14y ago
  I bet they aren't officially recognized by USA either, you can still buy Coca-Cola there. Seriously, I come to think IT products are inferior to physical products in the terms of being able to distribute and make them available regardless of politics.
  - kc0bfv 14y ago
    I suspect citizens of Iran, North Korea, China and the old USSR would disagree with that last sentiment. Ooh! And the US (Cuban cigars).
    - guard-of-terra 14y ago
      Do you think there are no iPhones in Iran or North Korea? Hint: there are. Even in USSR people managed to smuggle enough British LPs and Japanese tape recorders to kickstart a Rock movement. It's not that hard. Compare this to major IT services (Amazon, iTunes, movie streaming) not available in quite a few otherwise rich and democratic, albeit small, countries; or even only available in a selected few of countries.
      - kc0bfv 14y ago
        Well, I guess my point was that there are a lot of physical goods that US companies may not sell to these countries due to sanctions - political reasons. Certainly folks circumvent these measures. People also circumvent regional restrictions on Internet services with VPNs. I'm sure this company doesn't want to smuggle its service in. I have no idea why the service isn't available in some specific area, but I suspect "not being recognized by the EU" isn't the primary reason. Though that may make implementation more difficult in an area. My impression has been that companies have prevented each other from distributing to some of those rich and democratic small countries. Through region specific licensing of their media they've limited distribution. I don't think those are political measures, although certainly in other cases companies have used political means to achieve their goals.

Ives 14y ago

It seems like someone forgot Belgium (again).

jpkrohling_jpk 14y ago
No, we haven't. It's missing only from the Terms and Conditions webpage. We have Belgium in our hearts, in our language switcher and in our activation form :-)
- Ives 14y ago
  Great!

ujdtyhf 14y ago

Note that the standard form of payment in Poland is wire transfer. There are gateways for it, like przelewy24.pl or payu.pl. Nobody pays online with a credit card.