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Happy for Mario, Pi is the best harness I've ever tried. But overall disappointed by this decision. "This time everything is different" until it's not.

direwolf20 7mo ago
In a world with certain incentives, one must always expect people to act in accordance with them. If you don't like it, change the incentives or cope.
- Morromist 7mo ago
  I can just see you telling that to a slave in 1830. What? You don't like slavery? Don't you see that you have to expect the slave owners to act in accordance with the incentives god gave them and force you to gather cotton until your hands bleed? change it or cope dude. Or someone watching from the hills as the horde of Gengis Khan torches their city and puts everyone they've ever known to the sword - those mongols are activing in accordance with incentives! Change it or cope!
  - pocksuppet 7mo ago
    The slaves did in fact change the incentives by staging a civil war.
    - infinitezest 7mo ago
      What an incredibly creative retelling of history
Maxious 7mo ago
Things can be worse - this decision means 2 out of the 3 principals of the Vienna School of Agentic Coding have not sold out to OpenAI
- disiplus 7mo ago
  yet
patleeman 7mo ago
I’m not disappointed. It seems philosophically the teams are aligned and Pi as a project can continue and be supported. It’s a better outcome than most could expect.
rasmus1610 7mo ago
I mean what is the alternative here? Mario maintains the project pro bono, which is only possible because he had an exit a couple of years ago. I believe it is a lot of work making sure that the quality of the codebase doesn't detoriate with the onslaught of slop that is hitting open source projects right now. Additionally, I have massive respect for Armin and I don't believe Earandil is your typical VC startup that wants to grow no matter what.
ngrilly 7mo ago
I don't understand. Why the disappointment? Pi is still open source. Nothing is changing. Earendil's majority owners have a perfect track record when it comes to open source. Armin is a super star in the Python and Rust ecosystems.

direwolf20 7mo ago

In a world with certain incentives, one must always expect people to act in accordance with them. If you don't like it, change the incentives or cope.

Morromist 7mo ago
I can just see you telling that to a slave in 1830. What? You don't like slavery? Don't you see that you have to expect the slave owners to act in accordance with the incentives god gave them and force you to gather cotton until your hands bleed? change it or cope dude. Or someone watching from the hills as the horde of Gengis Khan torches their city and puts everyone they've ever known to the sword - those mongols are activing in accordance with incentives! Change it or cope!
- pocksuppet 7mo ago
  The slaves did in fact change the incentives by staging a civil war.
  - infinitezest 7mo ago
    What an incredibly creative retelling of history

Maxious 7mo ago

Things can be worse - this decision means 2 out of the 3 principals of the Vienna School of Agentic Coding have not sold out to OpenAI

disiplus 7mo ago
yet

patleeman 7mo ago

I’m not disappointed. It seems philosophically the teams are aligned and Pi as a project can continue and be supported. It’s a better outcome than most could expect.

rasmus1610 7mo ago

I mean what is the alternative here? Mario maintains the project pro bono, which is only possible because he had an exit a couple of years ago. I believe it is a lot of work making sure that the quality of the codebase doesn't detoriate with the onslaught of slop that is hitting open source projects right now. Additionally, I have massive respect for Armin and I don't believe Earandil is your typical VC startup that wants to grow no matter what.

ngrilly 7mo ago

I don't understand. Why the disappointment? Pi is still open source. Nothing is changing. Earendil's majority owners have a perfect track record when it comes to open source. Armin is a super star in the Python and Rust ecosystems.