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Better segregation of cyclists and pedestrians into their own spaces. The bell shouldn't be something that you use regularly.

• eru 6mo ago
  Depending on how much traffic there is, combining them is fine.
  • exitb 6mo ago
    Yes, but I would consider it somewhat rude to use the bell in a space where both bikes and pedestrians are allowed. If it would be required to be used regularly, I'd say the path is badly designed. I used to commute to work by bike in ~1M city in Europe, mostly on dedicated bike lanes, but some shared, and had just the smallest, barely audible bell, only because it was required by law. I don't remember using it much at all. I don't know what the problem is. Maybe the Londoners should take a good look at themselves.
    • eru 6mo ago
      Different folks have different preferences. I agree that on a footpath pedestrians should be treated as having priority. A semi-common way I use my bell: when on a shared footpath with plenty of space to take over, I often use my bell when I'm still ten meters away, so that I don't give pedestrians are heart attack by suddenly dashing right past them. (I have a nice ding dong bell. They don't seem to mind. It also helps that I often have a cheerful five year old in the back.)
• Mashimo 6mo ago
  But some bikers probably also use anc headphones, no?
  • djtango 6mo ago
    Seen cyclists with overear anc headphones cycling on the road in london. Absolutely mad.
    • PunchyHamster 6mo ago
      I do that. This was never a problem, as the ANC ones I used don't cancel every sound the same way. For example, I can go into datacenter and it will cancel all the datacenter noise(aside for when air blows directly into mic, it overdrives it) but I can still hear what other person is saying. Also I used them to generally listen to podcast so there was no wall of music to go thru, so sirens and such were easily discernable
      • djtango 6mo ago
        You do you but as a cyclist you are super vulnerable to all manner of things and I'd never want to give up that kind of awareness. If you listen carefully you can usually hear a cyclist behind you who may want to pass or is passing you, and having headphones probably makes that a lot harder
      • tokai 6mo ago
        >I do that. This was never a problem The most problematic people in traffic are never aware that they are the problem.
    • matsemann 6mo ago
      Do you also think drivers with windows blocking sounds and their stereo blasting are mad?
      • tokai 6mo ago
        ofc they are
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