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US fired 1k JASSM cruise missiles in 37 days. Lockheed makes 396 per year
- 4fterd4rk 6mo agoI'm not saying the Trump administration is compromised/influenced/managed by Russia but if they were I don't see what they'd be doing differently.
- nprz 6mo agoYes, it was Putin that was walking into DC every other month demanding the US strike Iran...
- troyvit 6mo agoMaybe it's not a question of if the administration is compromised, but rather who is doing the compromising. Hell why can't it be both?
- nprz 6mo agoYes, the infamous Russia lobby who spends lavishly on virtually every sitting congress member's campaign[0]. The Russian oligarchs who donated 100 million on Trump's reelection[1]. It's all so obvious. [0] https://www.trackaipac.com/congress https://www.trackaipac.com/congress [1] https://www.nytimes.com/2024/06/25/us/politics/miriam-adelson-trump-israel.html https://www.nytimes.com/2024/06/25/us/politics/miriam-adelso...
- troyvit 6mo agoThere's ways to influence useful idiots besides lobbying.
- selivanovp 6mo agoYeah, like pretending that they don’t see an elephant in the room, but Putin in every shadow.
- vorpalhex 6mo agoThen taking down the Maduro regime and the Iranians who are both Russian allies, arming Ukraine, and enabling out-of-theater sinking of Russian ships?
- stldev 6mo agoMadurismo without Maduro. Ukraine? Sure, after extorting them for campaign help (minerals later) while Russians murdered their families. And we're not "enabling" the sinking of any Russian ships.
- vorpalhex 6mo agoVenezuela has bulk freed their political prisoners and is on track to hold elections. And I think you will find Ukraine lacks the necessary satellite constellations to enable very long distance corrected boat strikes. Yet strangely Ukraine has suddenly been successfukly performing trajectory corrected boat strikes.. at very long distances.. Seemingly launched from not Ukraine. Or maybe Russian oil terminals just keep magically catching fire... along with their ships.. You know, the ones the US didn't interdict. Could be. Could be.
- stldev 6mo agoPURL/SACEUR as I understand it, no? We're not enabling the sinking of Russian ships. Your facts are off. It shouldn't be difficult to see that this administration has no interest in preserving democracy or allies.
- CharlieDigital 6mo ago> ...and the Iranians Russia is playing both sides of this. They're able to continue to deepen the dependency precisely because Iran has few allies while also raising the price of crude oil to enrich their coffers. A few Iranian lives are nothing to them. All you have to do is to look at the other side of this: if Iran were to open up and be integrated into the world, who loses? Russia. > ...arming Ukraine, It certainly appears that you've been in a bunker. https://www.pbs.org/newshour/world/what-to-know-about-trumps-halt-on-military-aid-to-ukraine https://www.pbs.org/newshour/world/what-to-know-about-trumps... > The White House said that the U.S. is "pausing and reviewing" its Ukraine aid to "ensure that it is contributing to a solution." The order will remain in effect until Trump determines that Ukraine has demonstrated a commitment to peace negotiations with Russia. > > The decision comes days after an explosive meeting with Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy, in which Trump and U.S. Vice President JD Vance said that Ukraine's leader hasn't expressed sufficient gratitude for American support. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/mar/04/us-military-aid-ukraine-pause-trump-zelenskyy-updates https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/mar/04/us-military-ai... > The Trump administration has suspended delivery of all US military aid to Ukraine, blocking billions in crucial shipments, as the White House piles pressure on Kyiv to sue for peace with Vladimir Putin. https://www.cnn.com/2025/07/04/europe/russia-ukraine-military-us-aid-cuts-intl-cmd https://www.cnn.com/2025/07/04/europe/russia-ukraine-militar... > Russia welcomes Trump’s cut to Ukraine’s military aid
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- CharlieDigital 6mo ago> If Lockheed dedicates the entire Troy, Alabama line exclusively to JASSM-ER and produces zero LRASM anti-ship missiles, the maximum rate is 860 per year. That drops the timeline to 2.2 years, but it means the Navy gets zero of the anti-ship missiles it would need for a Taiwan contingency. China wins by literally doing nothing. US losing on manufacturing, automobiles, renewables, human talent, global good will, etc.
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- someguydave 6mo agoYeah but the upside is that the elderly got to keep most of the federal tax revenue
- recursivedoubts 6mo agoi don't think this has much to do with the elderly
- CharlieDigital 6mo agoIt certainly does. https://www.pewresearch.org/politics/2024/04/09/age-generational-cohorts-and-party-identification/ https://www.pewresearch.org/politics/2024/04/09/age-generati... > About two-thirds of voters ages 18 to 24 (66%) associate with the Democratic Party, compared with 34% who align with the GOP. > About six-in-ten voters 80 and older (58%) identify with or lean toward the GOP, while 39% associate with the Democratic Party. https://usafacts.org/articles/how-many-americans-vote-and-how-do-voting-rates-vary-state/ https://usafacts.org/articles/how-many-americans-vote-and-ho... > How does voting behavior differ by age? > In 2024, 47.7% of citizens between the ages of 18 and 24 voted, compared to 60.2% of 25- to 44-year-olds, 70.0% of 45- to 64-year-olds, and 74.7% of people 65 and older. Older voters have higher turnout and skew heavily Republican.
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- maratc 6mo ago> By September 2016, Lockheed Martin had delivered 2,000 total JASSMs [...] to the USAF. [0] So probably another 1k plus all production of the last 10 years is all that's left in stock. Nothing to see here, moving along. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AGM-158_JASSM https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AGM-158_JASSM
- AnimalMuppet 6mo agoMore: They produce 396 a year when they already have 20 times that number in stock. If they don't have 20 times that number in stock, can they produce more per year? As CharlieDigital noted, yes, they can, though at the price of lower or no production of LRASM missiles.
- zulux 6mo agoGood. They were sunk costs. This opens it up for newer ideas - the age of hideously expensive missiles is over.
- whynotmaybe 6mo agoOnly if you're a nation with few resources or in emergency situation. Creativity in the US military as always been associated with a lot of $ for contract with the private sectors. Yes, many countries are now using cheap drones to destroy targets but I'm not sure the US military has the mentality to adapt to this situation because they're not "really" at war. How would highly ranked personnel react to the idea of a 400$ drone, cheaper than an AR15, when they usually discuss budgets about aircraft carriers (or a few 100$million F35) ? I wonder how many potential contractors would add a 0 to the price just to be taken seriously.
- wildzzz 6mo agoThey'd just add a zero to the quantity to be delivered instead.
- jerlam 6mo agoDrones are bullets, not delivery systems like aircraft carriers and machine guns. The US military already deploys a copy of the Iranian Shahed drone. They aren't $400 but the Shahed isn't that cheap either.
- wildzzz 6mo agoI would argue that drones are at least one level higher than a bullet, maybe something like a Carl Gustav round.
- ChrisArchitect 6mo agoRelated: U.S. is burning through Tomahawk cruise missile stockpile https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47619879 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47619879 US Burned 14 Years of Missiles in 30 Days https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47619701 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47619701
- juancn 6mo agoThe Chinese YKJ-1000 is reported to cost $99000 per unit, is hypersonic and has a range of ~1300 KM. It's looking like the US needs some disruption on their armament suppliers, kinda what SpaceX did for space launches. Compare that to the 1.5M each of the JASSM cost.
- hagbard_c 6mo agoThus far Chinese weaponry has not shown to be as effective as promised. Maybe this YKJ-1000 is the exception, maybe it is not. Maybe exported versions of the weaponry have been crippled in some way, maybe not. The future will tell. The future, also, which I expect to bring down the price of western weaponry, probably not as low as the Chinese equivalents but closer to those than to those demanded by the old defence dinosaurs.
- stanfordkid 6mo agoWhat's your source for this? There isn't really a lot of credible, publicly available information on what you're saying... just anecdotes. In the India v. Pakistan conflict recently a French produced Indian Rafale was downed via a Chinese long range air-to-air missle (PL-15) from a a Chinese produced J-10 jet. Even if they don't have the same hit rate, you can buy 10x for the same price. Source: https://www.reuters.com/business/aerospace-defense/how-pakistan-shot-down-indias-cutting-edge-fighter-using-chinese-gear-2025-08-02/ https://www.reuters.com/business/aerospace-defense/how-pakis...
- juancn 6mo agoEven if that's the case, it may be possible to make it up in sheer numbers. That's a 15 to 1 ratio. You can throw 15 missiles for the same price than 1. Even if they're 10% effective compared to the expensive ones, you may still have the advantage.
- hagbard_c 6mo agoYou need to be able to launch those missiles which requires some platform to do so. If this happens to be a ground-based platform is will be detected directly upon launch of the first missile and targeted for destruction. It better be an agile mobile platform like e.g. the Archer artillery system or it will probably not launch more than a single missile. If the platform is airborne it will have a limited carrying capability which partly negates the mentioned 15 to 1 ratio.
- romperstomper 6mo agoI guess they got rid of bunch of rockets with near expiration date
- geenkeuse 6mo ago[dead]