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I mean realistically what peaceful propsals are there. Every neighbour country is threating what else they can do.
by helo4362 6mo ago
I mean realistically what peaceful propsals are there. Every neighbour country is threating what else they can do.
- nielsbot 6mo agoThe best plan is one democratic state from the river to the sea for all peoples governed by the Israel government. > Every neighbour country is threating what else they can do. See above. When Israel finally stops trying to be a Jewish supremacist state things can finally start getting better.
- Matl 6mo agoHas it ever entered your mind that maybe it is actually Israel that is threatening every other country?
- dgxyz 6mo agoIsrael remembers the Six-Day War...
- lostlogin 6mo agoDoes that give a perpetual licence to kill, or do we try something productive at some point?
- dgxyz 6mo agoThe only productive solution is to get rid of all religious ideology out there (both sides). Good luck.
- Matl 6mo agoThe 'both sides' thing when one side is occupying the other is pathetic. There's only one side that needs to stop the occupation immediately, the Israeli one. We can go from there.
- dgxyz 6mo agoYeah remember when they left Gaza in 2005. What happened then?
- lostlogin 6mo agoThey levelled it, tens of thousands killed.
- Matl 6mo ago'left' as in imposed a blockade on it, you mean?
- GordonS 6mo agoThis is preposterous revisionism - Israel didn't just leave Gaza alone, they turned it into an open air concentration camp, controlling everything going in and out. And they were utter bastards about it too, literally counting calories going into Gaza, and classing just about anything as "dual use" so not allowed (e.g. tent poles could be used to hit someone). Israel has never stopped being the aggressor. Maybe if they stopped occupying, stealing, raping, murdering and massacring, the entire region might be more peaceful. Not likely for a genocidal, apartheid state filled with religious supremacist fanatics though.
- Matl 6mo agoEveryone remembers The Nakba. Or the Suez Crisis And?
- dgxyz 6mo agoNakba - Entirely the result of Ottoman foreign policy, WW1, WW2, League of Nations being a total fuck up. Suez Crisis - Egypt being dicks Six Day War - attacked from all sides. Bit of a contrast, no?
- Matl 6mo agoTranslation: Israel is always the victim, even if the whole world outside it sees it as the aggressor. I guess illegal settlement in the West Bank is the result of a Nintendo console not being launched the same day in Israel as in Japan? Or any other made up thing that shifts the blame from Israel to a 3rd party?
- kergonath 6mo agoThe war started by Israel, ostensibly as a retaliation for a dispute about a bit of water, which Israel used as a pretext to invade the West Bank? What about it?
- zelphirkalt 6mo agoAs a first step they could give back some of their illegal settlements. Then over time give back more, until they are back in UN recognized borders. That would be a start. They could also start to persecute violent mobs that chased people out of their own homes and the people in the military covering them. They could also release unjustifiably imprisoned people. You know, things that basic human decency would demand of them.