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Sorry but US has created this b roll since the 50s.

• BobbyJo 7mo ago
  The US creates "death to America" b-roll?
  • vrganj 7mo ago
    The US creates "Red Menace", "Terrorist", "Axis of Evil" or "whatever the imperialist excuse of the day" b-roll.
    • BobbyJo 7mo ago
      So you think "Death to America" and "Death to terrorists and evil" are the same? Do you think saying "criminals should be punished" is similarly wrong to say? Honest question, as I'm confused about your moral boundaries.
      • vrganj 7mo ago
        To the Iranians, America is "The Great Satan". To the Americans, Iranians are "Terrorists". To a bystander they're both deranged warmongers using transparent excuses.
        • BobbyJo 7mo ago
          There is plenty of evidence Iran funds terrorism. I don't know of any evidence that Americans are biblical monsters, but I'm open to new information.
          • vrganj 7mo ago
            "Terrorism" is inherently a subjective, ideological label, just a vaguely threatening name for the Big Other. A classic in the genre, along with "Red Menace", "Yellow Peril", "Rogue State" etc etc. The Iranian version of this propaganda technique is the "Great Satan". They're all just big scary terms to throw around and justify ones deeds. To the Iranians, the Americans are the terrorists blowing up their bridges. Now what?
            • BobbyJo 7mo ago
              > "Terrorism" is inherently a subjective, ideological label If the US started calling Iran "Satan" would you see that as an escalation of rhetoric, or business as usual?
              • vrganj 7mo ago
                Business as usual. It's all just scary terms to dehumanize. No different from "Yellow Peril".
                • BobbyJo 7mo ago
                  Fair enough. If you think terrorist and satan have equal grounding in reality then we'll just have to chalk the disagreement up to a difference in priors.
          • Hikikomori 7mo ago
            Terrorism or resistance against western imperialism and colonization?
            • BobbyJo 7mo ago
              That is a question one could ask. A little beyond me to answer.
  • Hikikomori 7mo ago
    Do you also believe that 9/11 happened because they hate your freedom?
    • BobbyJo 7mo ago
      No, I think that had a lot to do with post WW2 imperialism in the middle east, along with religious motivations.
      • Hikikomori 7mo ago
        >The US creates "death to America" b-roll? >No, I think that had a lot to do with post WW2 imperialism in the middle east, along with religious motivations. And these are not related?
        • BobbyJo 7mo ago
          How can a thing that doesn't exist relate to history?
          • Hikikomori 7mo ago
            So 9/11 happened due to US imperialism. And there's no incident ever in Iran related to US imperialism?
            • BobbyJo 7mo ago
              > So 9/11 happened due to US imperialism. I said that was part of the reason, not all of it. > And there's no incident ever in Iran related to US imperialism? I'm not sure what you're asking or why. There have probably been things that have happened inside Iran due to US imperialism. Not sure how that relates to the idea of the US creating self-deprecating propaganda?
              • Hikikomori 7mo ago
                Their actions create it?