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I don't think it's an ad hominem at all. The event is billed as "Come build the future of music", but if all they're doing is building a bunch of web apps again

I don't think it's an ad hominem at all. The event is billed as "Come build the future of music", but if all they're doing is building a bunch of web apps against some APIs, then they're really just doing the music API developers work for them, arent they? So RMS is completely right, as usual. Instead of doing all that free work, perhaps they should be building something they can own? The world needs more RMS'es.

georgeorwell 14y ago
> I don't think it's an ad hominem at all "Beard matted into a bizarre pizza crust flapping off the end of his chin... He waddled... RMS intoned gravely... he turned about on a heel and marched out... with a grad student in tow." If that's not ad hominem, I'm not sure what is, you scruffy-looking nerf herder. But um, what's even more bizarre is that you're saying it's not ad hominem and then you're taking RMS' side. P.S. The AGPLv3 is kind of nice; it's the GPLv3 extended to cover web app usage. I asked the FSF about a Lesser AGPLv3 but they said they needed lawyers a.k.a. money.
- tommorris 14y ago
  It's not ad hominem. It's abusive. But ad hominem ≠ abusive.
  - paulrademacher 14y ago
    It is an implicit ad hominem attack: here comes the unkept weirdo with his weird ideas!
  - georgeorwell 14y ago
    Ad hominem implies abusive, but abusive does not imply ad hominem. Fair enough. The reason I still think it's ad hominem, is the implication that because RMS is this crusty old weirdo neckbeard legend that doesn't exactly fit in with a bunch of young hip-to-be-nerdy hackathoners, his arguments about Free software (using RMS capitalization) don't fit in with hip and modern web API-using programs. But, of course they do, hence the AGPLv3. Of course, the implication isn't stated explicitly. Say what you will about that.
- anthonyb 14y ago
  That's essentially part of the legend now, much like Musashi and his alleged lack of personal hygiene :)

georgeorwell 14y ago

> I don't think it's an ad hominem at all "Beard matted into a bizarre pizza crust flapping off the end of his chin... He waddled... RMS intoned gravely... he turned about on a heel and marched out... with a grad student in tow." If that's not ad hominem, I'm not sure what is, you scruffy-looking nerf herder. But um, what's even more bizarre is that you're saying it's not ad hominem and then you're taking RMS' side. P.S. The AGPLv3 is kind of nice; it's the GPLv3 extended to cover web app usage. I asked the FSF about a Lesser AGPLv3 but they said they needed lawyers a.k.a. money.

tommorris 14y ago
It's not ad hominem. It's abusive. But ad hominem ≠ abusive.
- paulrademacher 14y ago
  It is an implicit ad hominem attack: here comes the unkept weirdo with his weird ideas!
- georgeorwell 14y ago
  Ad hominem implies abusive, but abusive does not imply ad hominem. Fair enough. The reason I still think it's ad hominem, is the implication that because RMS is this crusty old weirdo neckbeard legend that doesn't exactly fit in with a bunch of young hip-to-be-nerdy hackathoners, his arguments about Free software (using RMS capitalization) don't fit in with hip and modern web API-using programs. But, of course they do, hence the AGPLv3. Of course, the implication isn't stated explicitly. Say what you will about that.
anthonyb 14y ago
That's essentially part of the legend now, much like Musashi and his alleged lack of personal hygiene :)