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> build those wind farms closer to England How? The issue is local NIMBYs [0], anti-industry environmentalists [1], far left leaning groups [2], and even the f

> build those wind farms closer to England How? The issue is local NIMBYs [0], anti-industry environmentalists [1], far left leaning groups [2], and even the fishing lobby [3] all attempt to obstruct wind farm expansion and make it difficult for moderates in Labour to actually execute on building energy independence for the UK. Of course, this is also being amplified by information warfare by opponents to the UK [4][5], as can be seen by the social media campaign against offshore wind farms in the Isle of Man [6]. Frankly, the UK needs to internalize Fiona Hill's [7] position and start cracking down on fifth columnists like Farage, Corbyn, and their acolytes. [0] - https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c3r39el1ne0o https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c3r39el1ne0o [1] - https://www.heraldscotland.com/news/26000069.rejection-200m-turbine-bid-near-loch-ness-hailed-campaigners/ https://www.heraldscotland.com/news/26000069.rejection-200m-... [2] - https://www.thetimes.com/uk/environment/article/labour-versus-wind-farm-resistance-who-are-the-true-environmentalists-times-earth-ctg87zzlx https://www.thetimes.com/uk/environment/article/labour-versu... [3] - https://fishingnews.co.uk/news/developer-pulls-out-of-east-of-shetland-wind-farm/ https://fishingnews.co.uk/news/developer-pulls-out-of-east-o... [4] - https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2026/jan/18/uk-politics-constantly-suffering-from-online-disinformation-says-labour-mp-emily-thornberry https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2026/jan/18/uk-politics... [5] - https://www.thetimes.com/uk/social-media/article/iran-war-fake-news-social-media-0zns35c9l https://www.thetimes.com/uk/social-media/article/iran-war-fa... [6] - https://www.facebook.com/61588338835208/ https://www.facebook.com/61588338835208/ [7] - https://xcancel.com/FrankRGardner/status/2027098560647348410 https://xcancel.com/FrankRGardner/status/2027098560647348410

martinald 7mo ago
I mean offshore wind, not onshore. Thankfully most of the new ones are being built in England - check https://openinframap.org/#7.05/53.375/3.069 https://openinframap.org/#7.05/53.375/3.069, and these aren't curtailed. But it was incredibly dumb to build many GW of offshore wind in Scotland when the grid was already over capacity.
- alephnerd 7mo ago
  Even offshore ones face persistent opposition [0]. Frankly, opposition to either onshore or offshore wind farms is dumb and is clearly being weaponized by opponents of the UK. > But it was incredibly dumb to build many GW of offshore wind in Scotland when the grid was already over capacity Overcapacity is a good problem to have from a NatSec perspective (as is seen with Chinese and Indian solar). Also, it's the Scottish Government that has been backing offshore wind farm development for almost a decade [1]. Similar initiatives could have been done in England, but face persistent issues at the local level due to weaponized opposition. [0] - https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c74vj881090o https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c74vj881090o [1] - https://www.gov.scot/policies/marine-renewable-energy/offshore-wind-energy/ https://www.gov.scot/policies/marine-renewable-energy/offsho...
  - martinald 7mo ago
    I don't quite understand. The opposition can't be that insurmountable for offshore wind off England coast (instead of Scotland) given 700 giant offshore turbines are being built as we speak off the English coast. Including the world's largest windfarm (Hornsea 3).
    - alephnerd 7mo ago
      Look at the timeline of when Hornsea 3 and these projects were initiated - most of these projects broke ground 10 to 15 years ago. The issue is the next generation of offshore wind projects in England is up in the air. This was why Hornsea 4 [0] was cancelled by Ørsted, how the Isle of Man has mobilized against the Mooir Vannin project [1] despite it having the potential to help Liverpool and Manchester, and the Shetland's project being cancelled due to the fishing lobby [2]. What is under construction today doesn't matter because those projects started a decade ago. What matters is whether new projects are being allowed or blocked. [0] - https://www.reuters.com/sustainability/climate-energy/offshore-wind-developer-orsted-q1-beats-forecasts-2025-05-07/ https://www.reuters.com/sustainability/climate-energy/offsho... [1] - https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c74vj881090o https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c74vj881090o [2] - https://fishingnews.co.uk/news/developer-pulls-out-of-east-of-shetland-wind-farm/ https://fishingnews.co.uk/news/developer-pulls-out-of-east-o...

martinald 7mo ago

I mean offshore wind, not onshore. Thankfully most of the new ones are being built in England - check https://openinframap.org/#7.05/53.375/3.069 https://openinframap.org/#7.05/53.375/3.069, and these aren't curtailed. But it was incredibly dumb to build many GW of offshore wind in Scotland when the grid was already over capacity.

alephnerd 7mo ago
Even offshore ones face persistent opposition [0]. Frankly, opposition to either onshore or offshore wind farms is dumb and is clearly being weaponized by opponents of the UK. > But it was incredibly dumb to build many GW of offshore wind in Scotland when the grid was already over capacity Overcapacity is a good problem to have from a NatSec perspective (as is seen with Chinese and Indian solar). Also, it's the Scottish Government that has been backing offshore wind farm development for almost a decade [1]. Similar initiatives could have been done in England, but face persistent issues at the local level due to weaponized opposition. [0] - https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c74vj881090o https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c74vj881090o [1] - https://www.gov.scot/policies/marine-renewable-energy/offshore-wind-energy/ https://www.gov.scot/policies/marine-renewable-energy/offsho...
- martinald 7mo ago
  I don't quite understand. The opposition can't be that insurmountable for offshore wind off England coast (instead of Scotland) given 700 giant offshore turbines are being built as we speak off the English coast. Including the world's largest windfarm (Hornsea 3).
  - alephnerd 7mo ago
    Look at the timeline of when Hornsea 3 and these projects were initiated - most of these projects broke ground 10 to 15 years ago. The issue is the next generation of offshore wind projects in England is up in the air. This was why Hornsea 4 [0] was cancelled by Ørsted, how the Isle of Man has mobilized against the Mooir Vannin project [1] despite it having the potential to help Liverpool and Manchester, and the Shetland's project being cancelled due to the fishing lobby [2]. What is under construction today doesn't matter because those projects started a decade ago. What matters is whether new projects are being allowed or blocked. [0] - https://www.reuters.com/sustainability/climate-energy/offshore-wind-developer-orsted-q1-beats-forecasts-2025-05-07/ https://www.reuters.com/sustainability/climate-energy/offsho... [1] - https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c74vj881090o https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c74vj881090o [2] - https://fishingnews.co.uk/news/developer-pulls-out-of-east-of-shetland-wind-farm/ https://fishingnews.co.uk/news/developer-pulls-out-of-east-o...